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I am in the process of purchasing a new Sako 85 Finnlight in either .308 or 7mm-08 caliber.
 
I am planning on topping it with either a Swarovski Z6 2.5-15 x 56mm or a Zeiss Victory Diavari 3-12 X 56mm scope.
 
I have never owned either one of these scopes so looking for opinions on them before I buy.
 
I have owned a Zeiss Conquest 3-12 X 56mm which I did not like so I promptly sold it and purchased a Meopta Meostar R1 in 3-12 X 56mm that I still have on another rifle.
 
I have always wanted a Sako and to be able to top it with a premium high end scope. I have finally decided to go ahead and spend the money to get this set-up.
 
Which of the two will be my better choice? Will there be much noticeable light gathering ability between the two in late, low light hunting conditions?
 
Thanks for your replies and opinions.
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I would lean toward the swaro, and I have a 3-12x56 Diavari on my 30'06. Both are going to be scary good at twilight, though.Cool
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Zeiss will be front focal plane, the Z6 is second focal plane.  I prefer first focal plane and am a big Zeiss fan.  I couldn't be happier with my 2.5-10 Diavari.  Zeiss will also have Lotutec hydorphobic coating on the lenses.
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What I would do(if possible) since you already have the Meopta, is do a low light comparison with these scopes.We recently compared a Diavari 3-12x56,a Meopta Meostar 3-12x56 and a Trijicon 2.5-10x56.To our surprize the Meopta was close to the Diavari and when the price factor comes into the equation,the Meopta really shines.The accupoint came in last but was no slouch.Now this all new Diavari may be a whole new animal but I haven't got to see one in person yet.Looks as it's gonna be pricy though.
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The Finnlight is a very nice rifle... I have one in 7mm-08. My only thought revolves around weight. Why put such a hubble - sized heavyweight scope on this little lightweight shooter? How about the Swaro Z3 in 3-9 X 36? Just a thought. By all means, choose what you like best. 
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It doesn't get any better than Sako.  Very accurate and well built rifles.  Obviously you can't go wrong with Swaro or Zeiss.  I'm wondering why you feel the need for a big belled scope on a lightweight rifle?  Any good scope with 40-44mm obj will get you well past legal light.  You need not overlook the reticle choces either.  It won't do you any good to have the greatest glass in the world if you can't see the reticle (too thin, etc?).  That Diavari 2.5-10x42 is as good as it gets IMO.  
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

It doesn't get any better than Sako.  Very accurate and well built rifles.  Obviously you can't go wrong with Swaro or Zeiss.  I'm wondering why you feel the need for a big belled scope on a lightweight rifle?  Any good scope with 40-44mm obj will get you well past legal light.  You need not overlook the reticle choces either.  It won't do you any good to have the greatest glass in the world if you can't see the reticle (too thin, etc?).  That Diavari 2.5-10x42 is as good as it gets IMO.  


+1 Good thoughts. Also I would be looking at which has the wider FOV.
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

It doesn't get any better than Sako.  Very accurate and well built rifles.  Obviously you can't go wrong with Swaro or Zeiss.  I'm wondering why you feel the need for a big belled scope on a lightweight rifle?  Any good scope with 40-44mm obj will get you well past legal light.  You need not overlook the reticle choces either.  It won't do you any good to have the greatest glass in the world if you can't see the reticle (too thin, etc?).  That Diavari 2.5-10x42 is as good as it gets IMO.  


+1 Good thoughts. Also I would be looking at which has the wider FOV.


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why not a schmidt bender zenith 3-12X50....now theres a scope for ya
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

It doesn't get any better than Sako.  Very accurate and well built rifles.  Obviously you can't go wrong with Swaro or Zeiss.  I'm wondering why you feel the need for a big belled scope on a lightweight rifle?  Any good scope with 40-44mm obj will get you well past legal light.  You need not overlook the reticle choces either.  It won't do you any good to have the greatest glass in the world if you can't see the reticle (too thin, etc?).  That Diavari 2.5-10x42 is as good as it gets IMO.  


+1 Good thoughts. Also I would be looking at which has the wider FOV.
+2 and Like Mike said when it comes to FOV I think the Z6 has the advantage. Especially if you go with a 1.7-10X42. For hunting I don't think you will need more power than 10x.
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Originally posted by Cuz-Pat Cuz-Pat wrote:

I am in the process of purchasing a new Sako 85 Finnlight in either .308 or 7mm-08 caliber.
 
I am planning on topping it with either a Swarovski Z6 2.5-15 x 56mm or a Zeiss Victory Diavari 3-12 X 56mm scope.
 
I have never owned either one of these scopes so looking for opinions on them before I buy.
 
I have owned a Zeiss Conquest 3-12 X 56mm which I did not like so I promptly sold it and purchased a Meopta Meostar R1 in 3-12 X 56mm that I still have on another rifle.
 
I have always wanted a Sako and to be able to top it with a premium high end scope. I have finally decided to go ahead and spend the money to get this set-up.
 
Which of the two will be my better choice? Will there be much noticeable light gathering ability between the two in late, low light hunting conditions?
 
Thanks for your replies and opinions.
 
This is like asking do you want a V12 front engine Ferrari or a V8 mid engine Ferrari.
 
I have the Z5 and to be honest if your thing is hunting in low light you aren't going to beat Zeiss' 3-12x56 Victory for hunting in poor light. I bought mine from SWFA here back in 2000 or 2001 without the updates they've recently done like the loutec coating. The scope is amazing in low light & mine is about 12 years old.
 
Just my opinion but the Zeiss victory class is the best glass in the world. But Swaro is no slouch, what they've done with magnification & fov is awesome. If you need the extra magnification for longer shots in those Alabama bean fields pick the Swaro. If most of your shots are under 200 yards pick the Zeiss.
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I tend to think the 56 mm objective is a bit large on that rifle. What would you think about these:
Zeiss 2.5-10x50 Victory Diavari 30mm Rifle Scope Illuminated #66 Zeiss 2.5-10x50 Victory Diavari 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - ZEI5217359966
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  • 30mm
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Swarovski 2-12x50 Z6i 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SWA69337
  • Matte
  • Illuminated BRH
  • 30mm
  • 2nd Generation
$2,949.00 


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Stick with the lighter weight Diavari for a Finnlight.  A heavy scope isn't ideal on a lightweight rifle.  The 2.5-10x50 Diavari is significantly lighter than the Z6 or S&B.  Some of the S&B's are like bricks.
 
I just put a 2.5-10x42 Diavari on a new Sako 85 Classic and I couldn't be happier.  Looks right at home on the rifle.  Is light enough to maintain good balance/handling, and the optics are razor sharp.
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I have a Tikka T3 stainless 7mm-08,which is a very light rifle.I can carry this rifle all day and with such ease that the last thing I would do is put a heavy scope on her.16 ounces is max and a 50 mm bell is max.In my opinion you can really take away some of the balance an finnese of a finely crafted rifle by living large with your choice of optics. Plus there is not going to be this giant gap between say a 50vs.56 or even a 42vs.50 scenario if you choose quality optics.
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To echo what others have said -- a short action Finnlight is a very light rifle. I have a couple of them and the Z3 3x9x36 works perfectly.   I just purchased a Sako Grey Wolf in 300 WSM and I'm putting the Swaro  Z6 1.7x10x42.   If you really need the large objective due to low light hunting, I'd consider the Sako Gray Wolf instead of the Finnlight.   It's a couple hundred cheaper and it would probably balance better with a big scope.  The Finnlight is light on the muzzle end due to the fluting and skinny barrel. 
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