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If I only read of this once, I would dismiss it as an isolated incident, however, on more than one occasion, I have heard of folks stating that they had Swarovski bino's fog during a hunt in rough conditions such as in Alaska. An Alaskan guide stated on another site that this past season he saw 5 pair of Swarovski binoculars fog at the end of a hunt with his clients. Some of these were newer EL models. Does anybody know if this is problematic with Swarovski bino's? Just seems odd to me.

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Wow--that is odd...and yet most guides "swear" by them>>.Haven't ever heard of any issues Loco

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binoculars fog at the end of a hunt with his clients.
Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing not in the middle???
 
they were sad it was over...!!!!
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Just as a note, the guide that has reported this is Phil Shoemaker of Grizzly Skins of Alaska guiding service. Phil has a great reputation as a guide and also a well respected outdoor writer.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

binoculars fog at the end of a hunt with his clients.
Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing not in the middle???
 
they were sad it was over...!!!!


To be fair, I believe that what Phil reported was that BY (not "at") the end of their hunts his clients' Swarovskis had fogged.

In fact, I believe the exact quote was, "This past season I had four or five hunters carrying Swarvoski binos. One set was an older 10x40 porro prism model but the others were relatively new EL's. They all were fogged internally by the end of the hunts."
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Originally posted by lucznik lucznik wrote:


Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

binoculars fog at the end of a hunt with his clients.
Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing not in the middle???
 

they were sad it was over...!!!!
To be fair, I believe that what Phil reported was that BY (not "at") the end of their hunts his clients' Swarovskis had fogged. In fact, I believe the exact quote was, "<span ="post_inner"><span id="7">This past season I had four
or five hunters carrying Swarvoski binos. One set was an older 10x40
porro prism model but the others were relatively new EL's. They all were fogged internally by the end of the hunts."</span></span>


Not to worry lucznik, given the source I took the comment for what it was worth.
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I don't know ............but I can tell you my Swarovski scope fogged up so bad on 2 hunts last year I am getting rid of it !! It was to the point that if you tried to clean it......it would totally fog back up before you could even put the cloth down. My Zeiss binoculars stored in the same conditions with the rifle did not fog up at all !!
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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

I don't know ............but I can tell you my Swarovski scope fogged up so bad on 2 hunts last year I am getting rid of it !! It was to the point that if you tried to clean it......it would totally fog back up before you could even put the cloth down. My Zeiss binoculars stored in the same conditions with the rifle did not fog up at all !!

 
If the EL's are doing what you say why haven't you sent them back to Swarovski?? They'll fix or replace 'em for free.


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comon guys swaros have feelings too!!!
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

comon guys swaros have feelings too!!!


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Mines a scope and I am selling the whole gun w/scope anyway.

Got a Kahles now so we'll see how it does this coming season.
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You're selling a gun with a defective scope?  Man, the buyer is going to be pissed.

You are engaging in full-disclosure I hope.


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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

Mines a scope and I am selling the whole gun w/scope anyway.

Got a Kahles now so we'll see how it does this coming season.


Hmmmm.....interesting.
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WARNING WARNING, DON'T BUY GUNS FROM cbm Wink
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What the f....... !! Give me a freakin' break..............last year I asked on here about it fogging up and everybody acted like I was over reacting and it was the humidity/storage/or something related to that ! It fogged up on me twice out of 20-30 hunts ......which everybody seemed to think was no big deal but me !!
 
Now I am a freakin scammer .......WTF !! I'll put on my add " possibly fogs in certain conditions, not sure if it's scope or method of storage, but opticstalk guys told me not to worry about it ".........that is... until I get ready to sell it .......then they go postal !!
 
I was "just" wondering if Swarovski's have a problem with fogging since my binoculars didn't fog up !! BTW .......I would've kept the scope and kept using it if it had a 4a reticle and not a plex !! Go get a life.......@#$!* !!  If I thought the scope had a serious problem I would not sell it before having it fixed.......damn !! Butt%20Kick


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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

What the f....... !! Give me a freakin' break..............last year I asked on here about it fogging up and everybody acted like I was over reacting and it was the humidity/storage/or something related to that ! It fogged up on me twice out of 20-30 hunts ......which everybody seemed to think was no big deal but me !!
 
Now I am a freakin scammer .......WTF !! I'll put on my add " possibly fogs in certain conditions, not sure if it's scope or method of storage, but opticstalk guys told me not to worry about it ".........that is... until I get ready to sell it .......then they go postal !!
 
I was "just" wondering if Swarovski's have a problem with fogging since my binoculars didn't fog up !! BTW .......I would've kept the scope and kept using it if it had a 4a reticle and not a plex !! Go get a life.......@#$!* !!  If I thought the scope had a serious problem I would not sell it before having it fixed.......damn !! Butt%20Kick



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Whats WTF stand for??

No need to get upset, at least on my part.  I think everyone was just giving you a hard time.  I know I was, just being my sarcastic self.
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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

What the f....... !! Give me a freakin' break..............last year I asked on here about it fogging up and everybody acted like I was over reacting and it was the humidity/storage/or something related to that ! It fogged up on me twice out of 20-30 hunts ......which everybody seemed to think was no big deal but me !!
 
Now I am a freakin scammer .......WTF !! I'll put on my add " possibly fogs in certain conditions, not sure if it's scope or method of storage, but opticstalk guys told me not to worry about it ".........that is... until I get ready to sell it .......then they go postal !!
 
I was "just" wondering if Swarovski's have a problem with fogging since my binoculars didn't fog up !! BTW .......I would've kept the scope and kept using it if it had a 4a reticle and not a plex !! Go get a life.......@#$!* !!  If I thought the scope had a serious problem I would not sell it before having it fixed.......damn !! Butt%20Kick
 
cbm, I don't understand why you're getting so worked up.
 
Here is the thread you're referring to... 
As you can see, everyone was cordial to you and nobody "acted like you were over reacting," we were only trying to reassure you that, based on the information you gave us, the problem sounded like external condensation on the lenses, not internal fogging, which, if true, is not a problem with the scope.  Since we can't physically see the scope, we have to rely solely on what you told us.  You are misrepresenting the advice you were given just a tad here.  Everyone advised you to send it back to Swarovski if it fogs on the inside.  However, you made it clear that it was only fogging on the outside of the lenses, and under certain circumstances, that will happen with any brand of optic that doesn't have a hydrophobic coating, which is the only way to prevent occasional condensation on externally exposed lens surfaces.  If you are still certain that it is only fogging on the outside and not on the inside, then the advice you were given is correct, because this is normal.  It occasionally happens with every scope I own, especially in cold, humid weather. 
 
 
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Ted , I agree with what your saying. And maybe I am not wording things correctly.........but everyone seemed to think it was not big deal as I recall (I have not re-read the thread). But sure seemed like people felt different when I said I was selling it .
 
When I logged on this morning though I didn't think anyone was just giving me a hard time.............seemed like my character was being questioned. Plus I have 4 machines down in my shop out of 6. And my wheel bearings went out on my truck and I tore the old ones off .............the new one's came in and I went to put them on first thing this morning .........and they sent me the wrong kind . So anyway...........still not sure who was kidding or not.........sorry if I overreacted , probably should not have replied on a day like today !!


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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

Ted , I agree with what your saying. And maybe I am not wording things correctly.........but everyone seemed to think it was not big deal as I recall (I have not re-read the thread). But sure seemed like people felt different when I said I was selling it .
 
When I logged on this morning though I didn't think anyone was just giving me a hard time.............seemed like my character was being questioned. Plus I have 4 machines down in my shop out of 6. And my wheel bearings went out on my truck and I tore the old ones off .............the new one's came in and I went to put them on first thing this morning .........and they sent me the wrong kind . So anyway...........still not sure who was kidding or not.........sorry if I overreacted , probably should not have replied on a day like today !!
 
Man, that sounds like one of those days where you swear Murphy must have been an optimist and you wish you never got out of bed!  I know how you feel, brother.  My whole week has been like that!
 
Please reread the thread.  I don't think anyone was treating your question like it was no big deal, we were just trying to reassure you that everything was probably o.k. with your scope in the original thread, and in this thread, folks were just messing with you.  Or, at least that's the way I interpreted it.
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I had a pair of swaros last year (8x30 SLC). I returned them because i had the same problem. They kept fogging up!! I hunt whitetails in kansas and sheep in the western states and i had nothing but trouble. Sent in for a new pair  and the same thing happened. Decided to return and bought a pair of Leica 8x32 ultravid and they are great! Clarity is better too!
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Normally it's very cool in the morning where we hunt, I'm wearing a light jacket, the bino's are usually resting just inside my jacket for quick access and not hanging out to possibly get caught on something while stalking. Last weekend, I did one of my typical treks hiking a couple of miles in the early morning down a hill, across a small creek, up another hill, though a wooded meadow, then up a small but very steep knoll. From there, I'll sit and scope a large area for deer. By the time I plop my butt down and pull out my binos I've worked up a little sweat and in the past  I've found that my Leupold Olympics would usually fog up after I pulled them out. This is probably from being kept in my jacket, my sweating and then the cool air. Last weekend doing the same walk with my EL's, no fogging, amazing clarity and color.

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