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Hello, thinking of picking up the Swarovski Z3 4-12x50 with the Ballistic Turrets and plex reticle.  


I am not a fan of busy reticles like the Rapid Z or the Swarovski BRH.  For use on a Browning X-bolt .308 Stainless Stalker. 

Has anyone used the Swarovski BT in a hunting application?  

I am thinking I could just holdover if I hate the BT system and with only a $100ish dollar premium (over a plain jane 4a) I am leaning towards the BT.  I would love to hear from BT owners who hunt.

Thanks in advance! 
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The BT is a knockoff/Swaro version of the Kahles MZ.  I've only used it at the range (MZ system) and it has worked for me.  I like it.  You have to make the adjustment so I can't say it would be the quickest system for adjusting to different distances.
 
 
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I was also considering the BT, but have heard that it is not real tough for bush banging. I am trying to find the reviews again where I read a couple of people complaining about damage when getting bumped. 
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I had one of these turrets retrofitted to my Habicht AV 4-12X50 PLEX.  The factory will not sell the turrets for self-installations.  You need contact their repair department in RI and obtain a RMA #.  They charge $200 for a turret install, or $300 for a turret install and reticle change (April, 2011 prices).  They can retofit the turret onto any of their scopes that are available NEW with the turret as a factory option.

With their calculator, you can enter in whatever range you zeroed your scope in at.  Their ballistics turret calculator allows for the precise use of their turret, based upon the load that you're using.  Their ballistics turret program, instructions, etc. can be downloaded at: http://bt.swarovskioptik.com/  The interactive instructions explains how easily it is to set it up and dial it in based upon the target distance.

Play with their ballistic turret calculator before deciding if this is for you.  There are outer limits on the turrets, based upon the number of clicks it has.  Since the clicks are finite, how their units of measure translate to the available distance are a function of the caliber and load.  So be sure that it has the ability to range the loads you're going to be using.

What is great about this system, is that you do not need separate turrets for every different load that you use (like with a collection of www.kentonindustries.com turrets). 

Therefore, the factory retrofit cost of $200 is actually very reasonable - because the turret system can be used for any loads that I can obtain the ballistic data for.  Once I fugure out how to download their ballistics calculator into my Blackberry, I'll be able to make changes in the field without carrying multiple turrets.

As for the durability.  If you are knocking your scope into things so hard that you are damaging the turrets, you should be using open sights.  Your scope is probably not zeroed any longer anyway, if you are smacking it hard enough to break things.  Just my opinion...

To arrange for a retrofit installation, you need to contact them first for an RMA/work order sheet.  Then ship it off.  It takes 4-6 weeks, once it is in their hands.

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I ran a Kahles CL 3-1050 with a similiar setup
it worked fantastic provided I had the time to range, dial, and shoot.
There were a few times I just flat out didn't have the time hunting.

As a result, I am not going to be hunting with my 308 this year and going back to a flatter shooting caliber (25-06)

So, yes they work and I like the precision of dialing it in, just offering up a potential downside

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Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

I ran a Kahles CL 3-1050 with a similiar setup
it worked fantastic provided I had the time to range, dial, and shoot.
There were a few times I just flat out didn't have the time hunting.

As a result, I am not going to be hunting with my 308 this year and going back to a flatter shooting caliber (25-06)

So, yes they work and I like the precision of dialing it in, just offering up a potential downside



+1.    I prefer to employ the K.I.S.S. system, and also don't much like "busy" reticles for typical hunting scenarios. How about using something such as the Sightron Big Sky with the HHR reticle? It will give you a couple of additional aiming points without getting too involved. Just a thought. BTW, welcome to the OT Forum.
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I don't bang my equipment on anything intentionaly, but it does happen in the bush. I also am not sure just how durable the BT is. If it is flimsy though it may not be for walking stalking in the bush. I like the idea of the clean reticle as well, and on ethical long shots I think most situations would allow a person the time to dial in. At 300 yds or less with a 200 zero, I don't see the need to dial the bt. I just have just read that the BT is not very stout.
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