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Hello All,

 

I've been lurking on the site for a while, great site BTW.  I've learned a lot by browsing around.

 

I'm about to buy my first pair of binocs and have the opportunity to pick up a pair of used Swarovski 8x30s for not a whole lot more than the Nikon 8x42s purchased new.  Which would be the best pair to get?

 

I'll be using them for hunting in south Texas.  I know that swarovski has a great name, but what I'm trying to figure out is what's the best choice here.  I'd like a good pair of binocs for low light conditions.  Would either suffice or should I be looking at something else?  I'd like to spend in the $300 range, but would go up to between $400-$500 range if it would make a big difference.

 

BTW, I have to make a decision quickly, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Robert



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This depends on which Nikon binocular you are talking about.  I am assuming from the price you quote that it is probably the Monarch.  If this is true, you should definately buy the Swarovski.  Don't get me wrong, the Nikon Monarch is a decent binocular.  My best friend owns one and is very happy with it. Nevertheless, it is not in the same class as the Swarovski and if you can get the better glass for the same price you ought to do so.  You may not be able to see much difference (depending on how much you use your optics) but it is still worth it to have the higher end glass.  If for nothing else than just because it will hold its value so much better.
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Are the used Swaro's EL's or what model are they?

Are you asking about the Monarchs or the LX's??

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I think they are Swaro SLC 8x30.  Yeah I was comparing with the Nikon Monarch 8x42.  I read a few reviews that said low light ability was not very good with the 8x30 swaros.  I know that the glass is excellent, but I'd really like to be able to see good at dawn/dusk.    
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What do you guys think about Kahles 8x42 binos?  I've been reading about these lately too, but they've been cost prohibitive.  Is it worth the extra money to go ahead and snag a pair of these?  If they would last me 5yrs+ I'd be willing to spend a bit more for them.

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A good point is made about the resale of the Swarovski compared to a Nikon. I consider a 5 exit pupil as the least I would accept on a hunting binocular and 6 would be better for low light use. You could always get the Swaros and later spring for a better low light set. Most everything has gone to 8x42 or 10x42 it seems, for stand hunting I have always used 8x56 and currentily use a 8x50. The smaller binos can't really comptete with quality binoculars in this size. Just would not want to have to tote them around a lot. I can't imagine why a Kahles wouldn't last you many times 5 years unless you are extremely rough on binos. 
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I disagree that 5mm exit pupil is the minimal for hunting use.  I prefer a 10x42 bino.  I also use 8x32 and 10x50.  My suggestion would be to get Swarovski if they are in great shape and you are getting a great price.  Don't get me wrong, exit pupil is important, but a very distant second to glass quality.  The Swarovski will give you exceptional clarity during daylight hours and be adequate at dusk.  The Nikon will give you mediocre clarity in daylight and also be adequate dusk.  Keep in mind that I have not used the new Monarch binos though.  Good luck.
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Thanks for suggestions guys.  I really appreciate it.  I went by yesterday to have a look at the swaros and the guy had just sold them to someone else...  Oh well, win some lose some.  I was hoping to get something with an exit pupil of 5 or higher anyway....  It looks like I can get a great deal on a the Kahles 8x42 (Just under $500 US - New).  Austrian Optics - I've heard they get their glass from the same place that swarovski gets theirs (can anyone confirm this?)    Anyone currently using these or used a pair in the past?  Any comments greatly appreciated.

 

Robert

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Get the Kahles 8x42, they sound like they are being sold for a great price.  Kahles is owned by the Swarovski group so they may have the same source for their glass.
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Kahles is a very good bino that will provide you a lifetime of use.  Personally, I don't think you can get a significantly better bino without spending well over $1,000.00.  If I am not mistaken, Swaro and Kahles both get their glass from Schott.  Chris can probably confirm.

 

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