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I found a mint pair of older Swarovski SLC 10x42.  I believe they are the non-Swarobright because the glass has a purple hue. They want $800
The cheapest used Swarobright or NEU glasses that are mint (that I have found) are between $1150 -$1200.

Does the new coating really make that much difference for recreation/hunting? Is itrally worth the extra $400?

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The answer to your question is two part, that being no and no. Swaro makes great bino's and if someone tells you that they can readily see a difference between the two, I would suggest that you scroll past and enjoy. The differences between the "old" and new have more to do with ergonomics than optical improvements. Oh, and welcome to the OT forum.
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Roy, I would have to disagree with you there.

I once had a chance to compare three different Swaro SLC binoculars: pre-Swarobright, Swarobright with black body (transitional model) and Swarobright with green body.

While all three were pretty nice, the pre-Swarobright binoculars were not as good and I good comfortably see it.  Considering all the new binoculars introduced since then, I would not buy a used pre-Swarobright SLC for $800.  For similar money you can buy a new Meopta Meostar which, if memory serves me right, would be a bit better optically than the pre-Swarobright SLCs.

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I agree with ILya.

In fact a friend who has hunted for 15 years with an 8x30 SLC (that he has taken very good care of) recently won a made-in-Japan 8x32 in a drawing. This binocular retails for around $300, yet when my friend compared it to his Swarovski, he though the "cheap" binocular was as good if maybe not a little better. And this wasn't just blowing smoke, because he put his Swaovski up for sale.

That is how much optics in general have improved over the past 15 years or so, and not just inside Swarovski binoculars.
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Not denying the fact that there are lots of great 800 dollar bino's out there. If the OP wanted or asked that I would have suggested that he look through Minox HG's, Meopta Meostar's, Vortex Razor's, Bushnell Elite.......and probably a bunch of others I'm not yet familiar with. Just saying......

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Thanks for the replies.

I have always been fond of the craftsmanship and viewing of the Swarovski SLC since I first picked up a set in the mid 90s. They were the best viewing/quality that I had ever tried at the time. Finally thought I would treat myself to a set (always said one day I would own a pair), but $1399 is kind of hard to swallow for a set (new) when I can find some for half the price in new condition. I hardly ever see a used pair for sale, especially in mint condition. I guess people really hold on to these.

I wish I could take these and compare them to the NEU set or a standard Swarobright set, to see if they are really worth the extra cash.
Times are still hard and cash is short, to be throwing money away.

Never new there was a difference between old and new till I started reading this forum. I thought it was a change in the armor only. So I don't know whether ro thank you guys or curse you. LOL

If anyone else has true hands on experience between the two, please speak up. I don't think these glasses will last long as I saw several people ask to see them.

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About the Meopta Meostar, I just returned the Cabelas Euro set yesterday that I had ordered.. Made by Meopta and a clone of the Meostar/SLC. I thought this was an easy $800 out for the Swarovski. But the viewing was not any better than the used set I had found and the craftsmanship did not seem as good. (mainly the eye piece and the diopler knob) I thought why pay $800 for these when I could get a premium set of glass for the same price.
At least that is what i thought till I started reading these forums. Big Smile
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Just a note,  I know they are not Swaro's or Meoptas but I have a pair of Kahles that are about the same age as the Swaro's in reference and I have compared them side by side and see no clear advantage to the Swaro's I would hold out or go with something else. I am also ready for an upgrade. I looked through the new Swaros three times and I will not be choosing them?            due to the cost versus others.


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I am a big fan of Meoptas in the sub-$1000 price range. Excellent optics, but they are also quite rugged, in my experience tougher than SLC's. But there are a bnch of really good binoculars out there these days.
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Also, could some one tell me how to distinguish what series a SLC is? I know the NEU has the new Poly armor, and the older has the full rubber. But there were early Swarobright models also.
Supposedly they did 4 revisions.  (been reading more)
Also can I tell what date they were made by the serial number? How and where to look up?

Thanks again!
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I have both a Swaro SLC (non-swarobright) and a SLC (with swarobright & swaroclean). My eyes, I see a big difference in clarity between the two.

The older SLC's (almost 15 years old) are still real nice but technology has passed 'em by.


I will add that I sent the older SLC's back East to Swarovski for a checkup/PM last year. Swaro sent 'em back to me within two weeks with upgraded external armor housing, eye cups, etc. , cleaned everything up, free of charge. What an outstanding company. Thunbs Up





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Does anyone know the answer to my last post?
 
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Originally posted by Capp35 Capp35 wrote:

Also, could some one tell me how to distinguish what series a SLC is? I know the NEU has the new Poly armor, and the older has the full rubber. But there were early Swarobright models also.
Supposedly they did 4 revisions.  (been reading more)
Also can I tell what date they were made by the serial number? How and where to look up?

Thanks again!


I know you can tell from the serial number, but I do not remember how.  I think the year of manufacture was some two numbers from the serial number minus a constant of some sort.  Your best bet would be to call SONA with the serial number and ask them when it was made.

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the first 2 numbers i plus 30 in the serial number is how you age swaro products

if ser # is P72XXXXXXX it was made in 2002
If P68 it was made in 1998
etc..
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Thanks for the info.

I was told in another forum that the Swarobright started with serial numbers starting with 68xxxx. That would be 1998.
I know they did pre- NEU models for several years with the new coating (which I believe was improved with the NEU), but that long ago?
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Originally posted by Capp35 Capp35 wrote:

Thanks for the info.

I was told in another forum that the Swarobright started with serial numbers starting with 68xxxx. That would be 1998.
I know they did pre- NEU models for several years with the new coating (which I believe was improved with the NEU), but that long ago?


Call Swaro, they're very helpful.
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Ok, here is the scoop from Swarovski direct.

Swarobright was first introduced in mid 1999.
Any 10x42 SLC with serial numbers starting with D6908xxxxx will have it.
 
The add 30 rule works for all of the except the 7x30.
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