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for a hunter, what makes the swaro z3 worth $800? does the glass light up the night? i mean at what point does it get to be overkill? is the swaro z3 indestructible? can it handle all the elements? is the glass scratch proof?

im being serious too. im really thinking about saving up for one over the summer when work is good and strong (im in construction). 

is the swaro z3 3-9x36 worth the extra $300 or $400 over minox's za3 3-9x40 or za5 2-10x40?
is the swaro z3 3-9x36 worth the extra $350 over bushnell elite 2-10x40?
is the swaro z3 3-9x36 worth the extra $400 over leupold vx3 2.5-8x36?

*when comparing them to the above im comparing how solid the scope is built, how it holds up to the elements such as rain on the glass, snow, etc. how scratch resistant the scope's glass is, how much detail can be seen in low light. 

im purchasing a 22-250 sometime between february and april. then im gonna scope it over the summer.

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Scopes are a visual thing like with art what one guy thinks is worth much another may not see the value in because it is how it looks to your eye and you alone can compare them side by side and make your choice.   Best we can do is tell you what we like. My opinion is that I dont think a 3-9x36 anything is really what I want. Of all the 3-9 scopes out there the only one I would buy would be the 3-9x42 Super Sniper and that not because of the power range so much as because of the other features the first focal plane the mil dot reticle and the 1/10 mil clicks. A rifle scope does not have to be the same quality as a camera in a lunar orbiter to kill deer but if you understand that the larger objective helps the scopes to be brighter in low light and better quality glass does also help you in low light more so than in bright light. If you want a Swarovski this one makes a lot of sense to me because it offers so much more with a balistic reticle plus a wider power range.

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Originally posted by outlawskinnyd outlawskinnyd wrote:

for a hunter, what makes the swaro z3 worth $800? does the glass light up the night? i mean at what point does it get to be overkill? is the swaro z3 indestructible? can it handle all the elements? is the glass scratch proof?

im being serious too. im really thinking about saving up for one over the summer when work is good and strong (im in construction). 

is the swaro z3 3-9x36 worth the extra $300 or $400 over minox's za3 3-9x40 or za5 2-10x40?
is the swaro z3 3-9x36 worth the extra $350 over bushnell elite 2-10x40?
is the swaro z3 3-9x36 worth the extra $400 over leupold vx3 2.5-8x36?

*when comparing them to the above im comparing how solid the scope is built, how it holds up to the elements such as rain on the glass, snow, etc. how scratch resistant the scope's glass is, how much detail can be seen in low light. 

im purchasing a 22-250 sometime between february and april. then im gonna scope it over the summer.

I have a ZA 5 and the Swaro 3-9X36. I have the American 3-9X36 the model before the Z3 basically the same scope though. I have never had any issues and have hunted with it for years. My Minox is fairly new to my collection but I do like it a lot so far. I would pick the Minox over teh rest of the scopes you have listed and I can tell a difference in the overall construction  and the image between the Swaro and Minox. I have had superior glass save me a hunt more than once. For that reason I say yes it is worth it but that is a choice ultimately left up to you. You won't be dissapointed with either scope but the Swaro is better yes.
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It's impossible to tell another person what something is ultimately worth when it involves the other person's money.  If I were to tell you it's worth it, you might get the scope and have a different opinion.
 
What you get with the Swaro Z3 and any Swaro scope for that matter is an optically superior scope.  The 3-9X36 is a no-frills, lighweight scope with excellent optics.  A good argument can be made that it isn't 2X, 3X, or in some cases 4X better than other good scopes costing much less, but there is no doubt that it is a very fine scope.
 
I have 4 Swaro scopes, including the one you're considering, and I wouldn't part with them.
 
But, different eyes see things differently, so as always... YMMV.
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i like #4 reticles and duplex reticles. i dont hunt at distances where mildot or bdc would come in handy. 200 yards and less. 

you guys kinda did answer my question. i dont have more than $750 to spend on a scope if i decided to splurge. i was looking to spend about $400-$500  but was curious as to if the extra 300 was worth it.

for me the 3-9x36 is fine. if i hunt at night i will be with an elusive wildlife red or green light going too. also the 3-9x36 is great for walking and treking through the woods, nice and light.
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For a 3-9 class scope in the $400 - $500 range, you'd be hard pressed to beat the Zeiss Conquest 3-9X40.  It really isn't too far behind the Swaro Z3 optically.  Put another way, although it is better in my opinion, the Swaro isn't 2X better than the Conquest.
 
With optics, once you get to "mid" level scopes and better, incremental improvements come at a huge increase in price.
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THESE Z3 SCOPES HAVE BEEN DRASTICALLY REDUCED IN PRICE DUE TO THE ANNIVERSARY SALE.I JUST BOUGHT A NEW Z3 4-12 X50 FOR $799 PLUS TAX. AROUND $850 TOTAL.ALSO CONSIDER THE RESALE VALUE.I CAN HUNT WITH THIS SCOPE FOR A YEAR OR TWO AND GET WITHIN $100 OF MY PURCHASE PRICE.YOU DONT GO WRONG INVESTING IN QUALITY BUT YOU DO WHEN YOU BUY  SOMETHING FOR $500 AND FIND OUT IT IS WORTH $200 WHEN YOU WALKED OUT WITH IT.
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If you are getting it for night hunting I think you would be better off with the 3-9x Trijicon just because of the lit reticle.  While Swaro does have better glass, that lit reticle will gain a lot of ground on the swaro.
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I agree with all the above,I have 3 Swaro's.The glass is outstanding.I would however pick the Minox Z5 over the Conquest[more bang for the buck]Trijicon as stated is also suited for your hunting needs.
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