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I am wanting to get a new AR15 and the two that i am looking at are a S&W M&P15 OR-MOE
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/largeImagePopup.jsp?productId=709978&cImage=s7_290785_176_01
or a Rock River Arms lar-15 Tactical Operator 2
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=464
I am just wanting some opinions on which one i should get, i really don't care since they will cost just about the same and i like the looks of both, what i am hoping for is getting some opinions from some people who have actually shot one of them.


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I've shot the S&W some and really liked it. The RR has the good trigger and a little more "bling" like a chromed bcg free floted rail and the flip up fr. sight.
I've shot similar RR's and found them to be nice too.
 
Both are good quaity and would serve you well, I'd say. That said, I'd probably go with the RR because it has the extra bling and that trigger. I prefer a rail to hand guards, but that's me.   
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Flip a coin, they're both great rifles, I have both. I think the S&W scroll work looks the best, if that matters.
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To say most AR's are made equal would be a bit incorrect but i will say that most ARs in common price ranges are made equal, just a matter of picking a brand favorite.
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If I were buying an AR "off the rack", I'd probably go with Stag.
I've had great luck with CMT parts, they make a lefty for folks like me, so I'm partial in that regard.  
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Alot of the RRA operators that are sale priced are chambered for nato, instead of .223 , and have chrome moly barrels, if thats ok the RRA is the best bang for the buck. If you are set on a chrome lined barrel they will run more $$.

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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

To say most AR's are made equal would be a bit incorrect but i will say that most ARs in common price ranges are made equal, just a matter of picking a brand favorite.
they are made equal, a cartridge that barely beats a 44 mag in muzzle energy and barely beats a 9mm in power factor. (doesn't even make major pistol caliber).
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Speaking of Stag, the first few years of S&W AR's were made by them.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Speaking of Stag, the first few years of S&W AR's were made by them.
 
Didn't know that.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Speaking of Stag, the first few years of S&W AR's were made by them.
Yes, and quality improved after S&W brought the assembly in house. Today's M&P15 is a solid mid-tier rifle that can be bought at a good price if one shops around.
 
My first AR was a 16" M&P15A and it performed well. I only sold it because I upgraded to a 14.5" Noveske. The M&P would still be my choice between the 2 asked about by the OP; although, I would most likely buy the MOE version, which was not available when I first purchased.
 
Actually, if I were buying my first AR today it would be a 14.5" BCM with a mid-length gas system.
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Buy a Rock River lower complete with the match grade trigger that only adds $50 to the cost of a lower and for the upper order a custom upper from white oak armory.   John Hollinger builds the most accurate uppers that can be had and you can specify how you want the flat top upper with18 in SPR  barrel with mid length gas tube with quad rail float tube and flip up front sight gas block or quad rail gas block.  The 18 carries about like the 16 if you use the collapsable stock it is very compact but will give added velocity. Then put a smith vortex flash suppressor on it to save your night vision.
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Its interesting how each group views the basic Ar. Hunters don't really want all the police ka-ka stuck on the gun, 3 gun events go for JP's, Wilson and other makers who support that shooting sport and door kickers like BCM, Nov. What a great gun!
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Note than Smith recommends the use of specific types of ammo to gain the best results from the vortex. These same types of rounds used with a flash suppressor having the same surface area in openings will show the same result. Most are military type rounds not suited for hunting. Using handloads with vmax (in mine) show about the same flash. Reduced velocity loads (because of  barrel length not loading density) using a good solid hunting bullet like a partition, tsx, or good ole 64 gr power points give better downrange results and less flash in any of the current crop of supressors.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

Its interesting how each group views the basic Ar. Hunters don't really want all the police ka-ka stuck on the gun, 3 gun events go for JP's, Wilson and other makers who support that shooting sport and door kickers like BCM, Nov. What a great gun!
A very versatile platform, indeed!
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/
Buy a Rock River lower complete with the match grade trigger that only adds $50 to the cost of a lower and for the upper order a custom upper from white oak armory.   John Hollinger builds the most accurate uppers that can be had and you can specify how you want the flat top upper with18 in SPR  barrel with mid length gas tube with quad rail float tube and flip up front sight gas block or quad rail gas block.  The 18 carries about like the 16 if you use the collapsable stock it is very compact but will give added velocity. Then put a smith vortex flash suppressor on it to save your night vision.


+1 This set up will probably shoot much more accurately than most shooters are capable of.
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+1 This set up will probably shoot much more accurately than most shooters are capable of.

ar are just like handguns -- thats usually the case with all of them.
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