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New to this board, but have been reading for some time now and need some input from people that have used these scopes.
I have a M1A that I am going to use on paper only down here in SW Florida and the distance will be from 100-300 yards.
When I purchased the rifle, it had an older Leupold 3-9 on it and that was okay for me at 100 yards, but I am concern about out to 3oo yards. I am starting to have old eyes here!!!
The question that I have for all of you, is which scope? The 10x or 10x side, 16x or the 20x.
I do appreciate any input from you that have the experience with these scopes.
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10X. would be just the ticket as for the focus that depends on what fits you better. I like the rear better and I have one of both, but thats just me.
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Welcome to Optics Talk.
 
I, like Bigdaddy, think the 10x is the best all around SS, but if your shooting solely static targets @ 100-300 yards, you may want to consider the 16x Super Sniper, Sir.
 
I have grown to love the rear focus on the Super Snipers.
 
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In short the style SS is mostly preferencial, the magnification is dependent upon application. Just as was said for purely range target duty the 16, or the 20 will be fine. I'm unsure though I believe that only the 10x has the option for side focus anyway, so if there is the liklihood of going to the 16 or 20x that might be a moot issue.
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Thanks for the replys on the Super Sniper. The 3-9 that I currently have now is fine at 100 yards, but I know I will need something bigger for the 200-300 yard mark. I am not sure if the 10x will work with these old eyes.
Again, thanks for your help.
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Please keep us in the loop on what you end up with.
 
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For what it's worth I just put a SS 20X on my Tikka .308. It replaced a SS 10X same reason as you old eyes. Don't humt so field of veiw is of no concern. went to the range yesterday and had no problems seeing .308 holes at 200yds. Saw good enough to shot three five shot groups all less then 1moa. Not bad as I was working up loads and all three loads were different! Excellent
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Originally posted by bfm1851 bfm1851 wrote:

For what it's worth I just put a SS 20X on my Tikka .308.
 
Which model of Tikka?
A friend has a T3 Lite?? .308 stainless that is crazy accurate and a bolt that runs smooth as butta!  Wink
 
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Cheaptrick, it's a tikka T3 stainless. Second tikka other one is a .223. both have super smooth actions and are far more accurate then I. Had it threaded and installed a brake. Not sure why, maybe cause I could. As I stated had the SS 10X until I put on the SS 20X. Both scopes are great. Clear glass, very repeatable and tough. Maybe not a $12-1500 scope but way better then the $300 they ask. Can't go wrong either, buy one if it does not work for you, you can always get most of your money back. Smile
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Originally posted by bfm1851 bfm1851 wrote:

buy one if it does not work for you, you can always get most of your money back. Smile
 
I couldn't agree more.
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I have a SS 16X on my Savage 12 FV in .223 Rem.  I LOVE this scope!  Great glass, tough and the cool factor is way up there, LOL!
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I have the 16x on my Savage 12BVSS (.308), it's a nice match.
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 I went with the 20's with my old eyes I can pick out the holes at 200 with the 308 and will be testing the 223 in a few days. Oh yea my eyes are 57yrs. and at 16x it was a litttle blurry but with a much cheaper scope.
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With old eyes and punching paper only BRING ON the magnification!  The higher the better!
I am current using a 6-24X50mm for out to 300yds with my 223 and it makes a world of difference in groupings when you can actually see them!
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I use a SS 20X from 50 feet for indoor winter .22 matches out to 1000 yds at High Power Long range matches.  Served me just fine at the F Nationals last week.
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Originally posted by Boblor Boblor wrote:

I use a SS 20X from 50 feet for indoor winter .22 matches out to 1000 yds at High Power Long range matches.  Served me just fine at the F Nationals last week.
Bob


That is a pretty impressive comment right there.
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Sure is!!!..... X20 at 50ft?  I would be tempted to shoot behind me! Bucky
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The SS fixed power scopes actually focus down to 33 feet.  The reticle is a bit thick for indoor .22 but usable.  I also use a NSX Night Force for F tr shooting but I changed rifles this season and the Night Force was just a bit to heavy and put me over weight in F tr class with the new rifle.  I figured I may as well try the SS 20X and it worked just fine all season.  The NF does have a shaper image as you would expect from a scope that costs much more than a SS.  I ran a box test on the SS and it tracked beautifully and a 1 MOA movement did move a true 1.047 inch.   The Night Force does have more distinct  clicks so I do have to be more careful when moving the turrets on the Super Sniper.    The parallax adjustment on the SS works well, but you have to remember to make very minor adjustments to the parallex ring to obtain the best results.  But this is the same on the NF and a Nikon tactical scope I own.  The NF is better in dim light but I am a target shooter and poor lighting is generally not a problem.
I am re barreling my rifle this winter and that will bring the weight down a bit and I will go back to my NF as I like the NPR1 reticle in the NF a bit better than the mil dot in the SS.  But I did not feel at a disadvantage at all this past season using the 20X SS.  I came in 11th overall in F tr class at the Nationals and won the 1000 yd. F tr class match on Saturday.  Really for the price you are getting a very good product in the 20X Super Sniper.  To me, a corny name but a very good product.

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ExcellentExcellentExcellent  Excellent!  Congratulations on your win Saturday! and placing 11th overall, that is NO SMALL accomplishment!   ExcellentExcellentExcellent   Do you give lessons?  
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Very interesting and good info to me.  I too have a 20X SS on a 1000 yard rifle but am not completely satisfied with the clarity.  Also very true, the parallax adjustment is very touchy but it does come in if you are careful.  I've been wanting to upgrade but no more than I use this setup it's a tough thing to justify. 
 
Not trying to steal the thread but just out of curiosity, how high of power do you usually run on the NF?  Wondering if the 20X is really enough or if more power is better, up to a point of course.
 
 
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Ok, now I am talking about F class shooting in particular F tr shooting.  My Nightforce is 5.5x22 power.  I do not ever remember using it less than 22X.  For F class shooting I would say 20 to 36 power range is what you want .

I agree I wish my SS was as clear as the N.F. but there is a huge difference in price.

Bob
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Yeah, the NF is an awesome optic package but the cost rules me out for the time being.  Wish the SS came in a higher power variable.  That might be the best all around answer for a lot of us and our "needs"!
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All in due time.  For history past the 3-9 took a long time and I imagine the next member of the SS line will take a little time too.  A lot, lot of folks want a higher variable SS scope so I don't forsee Chris passing that up.  Its only a matter of time before we see one, I gots time,  I hope
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