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Since SWFA created it their should be some folks on here with a wealth of knowledge.  I am fixing to purchase a Remington 700 SPS Tactical chambered in .308.  I read about the hype of the Super Sniper line of scopes on several different sites, but none really get down to what makes the scopes so great!.  Does anyone have personal expierience with one?  Im interested in long range hunting/ target shooting.  The 20x is what caught my eye, if anyone so kindly could provide feedback on that specific model it'd be great.

 

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How about the best optics for a scope in the price range, dependability, accuracy, resettability, ruggedness, should I go on?

Best of all ya get it from these fine folks. and they stand 100% behind it

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I have used the 20x and the 10x both side focus and rear focus and I would say that it all depends on what you are hunting. The problem you get with any high power scope is that as the sun goes down and it starts to get dark you either have to have a huge front objective lens or consider a lower power optic.  A 6power scope with a 42mm objective front lens has a 7mm exit eye pupil which is as bright as a young man could possible use, older guys may not be able to tell the difference between a 5mm exit eye pupil and a 7 because their eye will not dialate larger than about 5mm.  What that means in the real world is that if you have a 20x scope with a 42mm objective  take the 42 divided by 20 to find the exit eye pupil size is 2.1mm.  At 2.1mm you are just fine in bright daylight but as it gets dark the scope looks grey more so than looking without the scope. For a guy who has a variable power 3-9x40 scope he solves the problem by dialing down to around 6x and poof the image brightens right up.  Take a 10x42 scope and it has 4.2mm exit eye pupil which is actually quite useable in relatively low light.  There is always a trade off with scopes anything larger than a 42mm objective tends to be cumbersome and awkward. Since cheekweld is very important also the 42mm objective seems to work nicely.  At 10x the 1000 yard target appears the same as it would to the un aided eye at 100 yds and most guys can shoot 100 yds without glass.  Are there better scopes yes but they cost a lot more money. The tactical knobs work well and the scope has a good solid feel. Next step up in price/value is the IOR 6x42 and for a little more you can get variables but more moving parts means more things to go wrong, so sometimes------ Less is More .  You can not find any other scope that holds its resale value as well as the Super Sniper line.  Noteworty is the fact that a high power variable say a 6.5-20 can be dialed down to 6.5 when it gets dark and used at 20x when it is lighter which makes the high power variables a better choice than a fixed 20X but you will pay a lot of money for a good tactical high power variable. The 10x version seems to be an all around favorite.  Also noteworthy is the Zeiss rapid Z1000 reticle available on some of their new scopes which gives holdover for distance to 1000 yds for .308   It just depends on what you can afford to spend. If you are comfortable dropping a grand or more into a scope look at Leupold Mark 4 and IOR. If you can spend more look at U.S. Optics & S&B.

 

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Do not every spend a grand or more on a Leupold scope.
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Plus 1 on the others comments about the Super Sniper.

My rear focus 10x has performed VERY well. I stole it only paying $300. 

 

This website has a TON of posts in the archives you can check out also. 

 

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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Do not every spend a grand or more on a Leupold scope.

 

OK I give up what is the punch line???  I happen to have a couple of high dollar Leupolds, and  SURPRISE !!!  I like them, and think they are worth what they cost.  So if you are going to Leupold bash then substantiate your reasoning or back off and realize that they make cars in different colors because not everyone likes the same thing, same with scopes. I think I got a good value at SWFA on my 3.5-10x40 FFP Leupold Mark 4 ---- it works well and meets my needs and --- YOU CANT FIND ONE USED AT A BARGAIN BASEMENT PRICE, so you pay it or live without it. Best glass no, good glass yes, good reticle yes, reliable yes, good customer service yes, made in USA yes.  P.S. On our firing range where all the agencies snipers come to qualify - guess what I'm  seeing  --- DUH  -- Leupold tactical scopes on 9 out of 10 rifles because they are reliable.  What do our sniper instructors use and recommend - you got it Leupold. 



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cyborg said it the best.

I have been very happy with the performance of all of my SS scopes, I have the SS10X42 , 10X42M and the SS16X42. All of them have been great.

Dependability, Repeatability, Accurate , Tough, Affordable and Simple sums it up for me.

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I recently sold my 10x SS because is was just too much magnification for a hunting rifle. I replaced it with a 4x scope and my rifle is once again, a "hunting rifle".

If your style of hunting is from a sniper position were you sit and glass from a distance, far past 100 yards, the 10x will be great.

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Well i ordered the 10x42 yesterday, we'll see what happens.  Thank you to all who responded.  Along with all the suggestions i went to the Super Sniper Website and that was all she wrote. It was one of those "you had me at hello' moments!
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