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    Posted: September/01/2015 at 05:03

Guys,

I'm looking for a new scope for a .308 I'll be using mostly for medium to long range (500m) steel but some hunting and have narrowed the scope choice to either the SS HD 5 x 20 FFP or a Vortex Viper PST 6 x 24 FFP scope. 

I don't have any FFP scopes and am wanting to try a reasonably priced one.

I like the price and features on the Vortex but a lot of folks on here swear by the SS. 

Any advice to a newbie?

Thanks in advance!



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The ss is a better scope. The ss would be more comparable to the razor than the viper.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

The ss is a better scope. The ss would be more comparable to the razor than the viper.
as stated the SSHD is closer to the razor 1, the pst is closer to the SS 3-15.

Check out the  Sightron SIII FFP,
dont go by the website image  of the mil hash. it really doesnt look that horrific.
this what it actually looks like
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
or the Burris XTR II  line also
 
The pst and sightron only have 5 mil revs. but   with a 308. that should get you out to 600 meters or so before you would need to go to the second rev.
glass trumps magnifcation.
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With some hunting as a use, I would want something lower than 5x for magnification. The FOV is a little too narrow for me. I would look at the SS3-15. And yes 15x is very doable at 500yds. I know people who shoot 1000yds with 10x. Most people when they start will over scope their rifle.

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Another vote on the SS 3-15.  I hunt with mine and also do competition shooting with mine out to 1000+ yards.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote okc4956 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/01/2015 at 22:02
"The pst and sightron only have 5 mil revs. but   with a 308. that should get you out to 600 meters or so before you would need to go to the second rev.
glass trumps magnification"


Which one do you think has the best glass?  The SS HD?

I like the price of the SS 3x15 too.

The Burris looks pretty good too but I don't want to pay for 34mm rings.  Don't know much about Sightron.  That one looks pretty good too for the price.... too many choices:) 
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+2 SS 3-15
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+3 - Any SWFA scope is a good bet as long as you get the one that best suits your needs. 
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Me and a buddy compared his 6-24 PST and my SS 5-20 on our .308's.  On the higher end, the PST fell off terribly in clarity to the SS.  Suffice to say that he sold the PST and bought a SS 5-20.

If you haven't bought yet, and have your heart set on a SS scope.......... if you can stand to wait until Black Friday, (if the past is any indicator) you may be pleasantly surprised.  They don't go on sale often, but it's worth the wait!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote okc4956 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/29/2015 at 05:05

I've not bought anything yet so still looking. Black Friday may be worth the wait. 

I compared a 6x24 PST to a 3 x 18 Leupold Mark 6 the other day and the Leupy really looked good.  It has the 34mm tube.  But it is more $$$ than either of the other scopes.  There is one on the Samplelist I've had my eye on, but just reluctant to part with the money and of course the mount for the 34mm tube is more bucks too.

Thanks for this info! 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FireEMT5 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/30/2015 at 08:26

Don't be afraid to buy a SS scope off the sample list either.  Many folks around here have bought demo B items that they swear were new in box looking.  That will save you some money and the great SWFA warranty still applies.

I bought a Vortex Razor spotter off the sample list a few years ago - it was listed as demo B, but when I got it, I'd have sworn it was new.  Maybe someone handled it, but other than that I had no idea it was a "used item".  I was very happy with that purchase.

That said, if you can afford to wait and ultimately decide on a SS scope, you may want to wait until the Black Friday sale.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote muleystalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November/04/2015 at 23:21
I have the SS 3-15x42 and the HD 5-20x50, my friend and cuz both have the PST's 4-16 and the bigger, the glass on the 3-15 SS is considerably better than the Pst's and then compared a PST FFP and that was worse glass than the SFP PST's. You could really see the difference from 10x on up.the build on the SWFA;s are built a lot tougher also. And the SS5-20x50are a whole other level.Big Grin
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I've compared a SWFA SS 3-15, Weaver 3-15 Tactical and Vortex PST 4-16 side by side.  To my eye both the SS and Weaver beat the PST for optical quality, especially at the higher end of the magnification range.  The owner of the PST also owns a Weaver Tactical 3-15 and his conclusion was the same as mine. At 14-16x the PST glass looks slightly hazy to me compared to the SS and Weaver.  Optical quality between the SS and Weaver is about a toss up to my eye.  The Weaver is bigger and heavier than the SS but it has locking turrets, a lighted reticle is an option (not daylight visible)and on my scopes the side parallax adjustment is more fluid and easier to make fine adjustments with than on the SS.
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