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I need some feedback on a scope comparision: Super Sniper 20x vs. a Nikon Monarch 8-32x. Willing to pay the 400 dollar difference if the Nikon is worth it.  Shooting out to 700 yards w/ 308.

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I'm not really sure why anyone needs an 8-32x but some target shooters do buy that type of optic.  I have had a 20x Super Sniper and I still have two 10x Super Snipers. You will find that in bright daylight high power optics are a lot of fun but in low light at dusk they are close to useless.  The amount of light a scope lets through to your eye is called the exit eye pupil size. 7mm is considered to be as much light as is useable by a young man and age decreases your eyes ability to dialate. Us old guys probably only get use out of 5  1/2 or 6mm if we are lucky.  Take the size of the objective say 42mm divide that by 20x to find that your 20x42 Super Sniper has an exit eye pupil of 2.1  where a 10x42 Super Sniper has an exit eye pupil of 4.2 and a 6x42 IOR Tactical has an exit eye pupil of 7 .   Now with a variable say 4-16x42 you can dial the power down as dusk yields less light thereby making the scope more useful later in the day. If you only shoot targets in bright daylight its not an issue. If you hunt or use the scope for other applications you must consider how bright will it be at the time of day you will be using it.  Now bear in mind that the M14 and its civilian counterpart the M1a are often used with open sights out to 1000 yds and realize that you do not need the highest power optic available to shoot 700 yds.   Think of it this way a 10x scope at 1000 yds is like 1x at 100 yds. Most people can shoot with open sights at 100 yds with reasonable results --- so with that in mind I would recommend you consider something in the 4-14 or 4-16 power range and a 50mm would be a good choice.
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Note the Leupold has 100moa of internal adjustment more than twice what most other scopes have. The Bushnell has very nice glass and is more of a hunting scope where the leupold is a true tactical. Now of the two scopes you mentioned I would buy a 20x Super Sniper again but I know its limitations and I am not sure it is right for you.  I would never buy an 8-32 anything.

Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - June/02/2008 at 20:44
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/06/2008 at 09:11
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 A 20X fixed is pretty well good for FIXED distance targets only . Any closer shots and boom-zoom and limited POV . If all your shots are 700 yards + and never moving maybe .... but can you guaratee every shot's going to be that distance ? If not I agree with Urimaginaryfrnd ... go to a good variable .... alot more useful .
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Nikon Monarch with the BDC reticle is worth it. Designed to work with 168 & 175 Grain 7.62 bullets. With a minimum of practice 700 yards will be a piece of cake and you'll be putting 10 shots in an 10 inch circle if your rifle is up to it. I have one on my Savage model 10FP .308 in a Hogue full aluminum bedded stock and can put 5 shot group inside 8 inches @ 1000 yards all day long. Not bragging, just a Great Gun and great Glass !
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