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Is the SS10x42 an Army mil dot or USMC mildot? 

 

I got mine a few years ago when SWFA was still in a residential neighborhood in Duncanville.  I didn't get any literature with it.

 

Are the dots .2mil in diam, and .8mil from edge to dot to dot inside, or .25mil in diam, and .75mil from edge of dot to dot inside?

 

I've assumed it's and Army mil reticle since the dots are round and not football shaped, but all the hype indicates the SUPER SNIPER was a Navy contract.  I appolgize if this has been addressed ad nauseum, but I searched and found nothing specifically related.

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Welcome, Sir!!

 

Good question.....

 

.75, I believe.



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I guess to find out for sure, I'll have to make a poster with some scaled targets and check them at the range.  It seems like a pretty significant difference, and I'm surprised it's not identified in the scopes specs.

 

USMC

 

ARMY

 

 

 

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Just different numbers to calculate range.

 

Recently there has been a lot of discussion (read argument) around whether or

not the Army and the USMC use different moa values on their reticles. A call to

the Leupold engineers will result in their stating that all Leupold reticles (military

or commercial) use 3.438 (same as the USMC), however every Army manual or

reference states that 3.375 is the correct number. So what is the correct number?

Research into the original Army requirements documents shows that only the

physical distance between dots and that it equate to 1 mil is articulated, however

further discussions with the engineer reveal two things; a mil is a military term

and that the Army only recognizes 6400 mils to a circle which in turn equates to

3.375moa to a mil. Why then did the USMC go with 6283 or 3.438. The answer

probably lies in the fact that an engineer more than likely developed the reticle

using the dots and because it was an engineering term stuck with the 6283 being

unaware of the 6400 number. While all of this makes for a great argument, the last

interesting part of the research revealed that the error acceptance on the Army

reticle exceed the difference between the two (Army and USMC). Therefore the

actual value could and probably is somewhere in between. The shooter using

Michael Haugen 2002 5

either reticle will never realize the difference in mil value (NOT dot size or

measurement methods). The end result; use 3.5 moa to a mil and practice. It

should also be noted that MG (ret) Julian Hatcher states in his book “Hatchers

Notebook” first printing August 1947 on page 403 “one mil = 3.375 moa”.

If you are a purest, use 3.375 for an Army type reticle and 3.438 for a USMC type

reticle, otherwise use 3.5 for either.

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The next time your at the range make a barbers pole on one leg of your target using different colored electrical tape, black, white, red or any colors you can find. Alternate colors in strips of 3 3/5 of an inch at a known 100 yrd target and check it for yourself.

If you have access to a range finder start ranging known objects around your home. Ford F-150s normally run 16 inch wheels on the later models and there are tons of them around. 

 

NOTE: Don't have it mounted on your rifle when you do it,

 Some people tend to go a little Psycho about that kind of stuff. ( WHO KNEW !!! )     

 

 

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My neighbors are already a little worried about me because I hang deer from the tree in the front yard and cut them up. ( It really doesnt take me that long to skin and quarter them but seems like its always when they arrive home.)

 

Does keep the neighbors in line though.

 

 

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