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rifle looney ![]() Optics Master ![]() Joined: November/21/2008 Status: Offline Points: 2553 |
Unfortunately, no one has an answer for this we are all waiting impatiently!
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mike650 ![]() Optics God ![]() Joined: May/14/2006 Location: West of Rockies Status: Offline Points: 13048 |
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Mike McDonald ![]() Optics Journeyman ![]() Joined: September/01/2004 Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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RONK ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() Joined: April/05/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3199 |
Your experience is so thoroughly at odds with the vast majority of Super Sniper owners, that I must consider it a wierd fluke. You got a VERY rare lemon, and hopefully Bushnell takes care of you and corrects it. Sorry about your luck, but to be a bit blunt, it really shouldn't have taken you anywhere near 100 rounds of ammo to figure out that there was something seriously out of whack here.
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billyburl2 ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() Joined: January/08/2009 Location: Cottonwood, AZ Status: Offline Points: 3972 |
My personal expierence is just the opposite! My S.S. 10x42 is mounted on 7 pound rifle chambered in 300 wsm running pretty hot hand loads and it holds zero and dials in elevation and windage corrections as well as my ability allows. While I have only had it since March, I have yet to have it not perform to my expectations. What kind of rings and base was your scope mounted in?
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Urimaginaryfrnd ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Resident Redneck Joined: June/20/2005 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
You have several options start by being realistic enough to evaluate them.
1. Call the SWFS Customer Service Professionals at 972-617-7056 from 8 a.m -5 p.m CDT or via e-mail at swfa@swfa.com.
2. Allow them to repair or replace the defective item and evaluate the success or failure of that customer service.
3. Call SWFA and either exchange or trade in the scope you do not like for one that you do like. Just like cars there is more than one make out there and not everyone likes the same thing.
4. You can check to see if possibly it might be the rings or base or the rifle by using a different scope to see if it does the same thing.
Not every gunsmith has their act together but they will all tell you they are the best in the world. The first thing I would suspect is the mounting system, the next thing I would suspect is your level of ability so you might have someone who is a consistently accurate shooter help you out. Step by step eliminate each of the different variables. Better sand bags or a bipod may be helpful. I have owned 4 Super Snipers and they have all been quite reliable so I tend to think it is not the fault of the scope but see what Bushnell says I do think it only fair to allow them to fix it before slamming them.
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Harmless ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() Joined: February/13/2008 Location: PA Status: Offline Points: 3 |
Thank you folks for quick replies and suggestions - I will respond to initial comments and then wait till I have some facts from Bushnell.
I am kicking myself about waiting till 100 rounds are down the tube. But I could adjust scope into a good group by the end of each session - 10 -15 rounds or so (1/2" - 3/4" at 100). The gun has a muzzle break and is the loudest thing I have ever shot, and I kept thinking I will get onto this thing. Then, it was back to square 1, the next time - using the same rest that lets me get good groups from my other center fires. I finally said to myself - "I can get to good groups, it is not the just the gun or me."
The base is a leatherwood picatinney rail, with 4 screws, increased to larger diameter for recoil. The rings are millet tactical six screw - all loctited in and all rigid as far as I can tell and the gunsmith's evaluation.
I did take it to my gunsmith for evaluaiton. Then, I did call SWFA and discuss it - I did call Bushnell and discuss it, and I have sent it in for repair as they suggested. As a consumer is supposed to do, I also shared in this forum that my experience with a Super Sniper has not been positive. I own what staff from both places think is a bad scope. I will compliment them in this forum if they fix it - but that is not the same thing as getting a good, working scope at the start. I was also candid about the scope being made by TASCO, and that my products by that maker - only two, but two of two, have failed. I have seen many, many posts in this where writers deride and devalue certain low-end scope makers. I do the same, based on my experience.
Whether I am "starting off on a wrong foot" is irrelevant to me - I wanted to add some balance to the chorus of "hooray super sniper." I know many writers like it - in fact, that is why I bought it and why my expectations were that it would work.
It is premature to talk of trade until I know what I have. I will return when I have news.
Thanks again for the comments and for a chance to ventilate where it might help some other consumer in the future.
Harmless
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silver ![]() Optics Master ![]() Joined: November/04/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2291 |
Mister "Harmless,"
From time to time we have the odd (Let me Stress ODD) troll. Some people have some real problems and some just want to make trouble. We get both. Did you get the scope new directly from SWFA because THAT you did not say?
Questions that you should ask are were your rings really round? Were they sized correctly? Were they screwed down properly? Were they lined up? How do you know? Lots of worn tooling and stuff getting tossed back to make quota. Those issues are major causes for every scope maker getting items returned.
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supertool73 ![]() Optics God ![]() ![]() Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Location: Utah Status: Offline Points: 10476 |
The scope is not made by tasco any more. They were I think the second owners of the design of the SS. The thing you got to understand is a lot of scope could be made in the same factory by the same people. Tasco, Bushnell, Nikon, etc is just a name of the company, most of the scopes are made in factories all over the world based on the specs that the brand name requests. Some can be great scopes some can be cheap POS scopes it all depends on how good the brand wants to make them. A lot of it depends upon the specifications for quality of that particular scope. The level of quality of the materials it is made out of. The original tasco models were very good, then if my info is correct they started to cut corners on them and they went down hill. Then SWFA bought the rights and uped the anty if you will so they were once again a quality scope built to a specific standard. It sounds like to me you probably got a lemon, I feel for you as I have had a lot of those and it is frustrating as hell. But what can a person do other than send it back.
The reason they still have a Tasco warrenty card is because if SWFA had to have all new booklets made they would have to raise the price a little. They had a bunch of them when they bought the rights so they just kept sending the ones that were already made. |
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