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I just purchased a Remington model 700 Police sniper .308, with heavy barrell, H-S Precision stock, the fancy trigger, all the bells and whistles.  The only delimma is that I cannot decide between the Super Sniper 10X or 16X, or the Millett 4-16X50.  I have never used a fixed power scope and have often used variable power.  I would appreciate any and all replys, Thanks you!
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Welcome to Optics Talk.
 
Super Sniper, hands down.
 
I own the 10x SS and have used the Millet in question. I much prefer the former, though the Millet isn't entirely junk either.  
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I haven't used either, but from reading the posts of the professionals here, I'm guessing the concensus is going to be the super sniper 10X.  Big Smile
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You laid out some good cash for that gun, put a good scope on it. . . SUPER SNIPER!

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Well, it seems the consesus seems to be in!  I think the Super Sniper is the way to go. As previously stated I have never used a fixed power scope, however I'm not a complete idiot, I think I will have no problems...lol.  And you're right I did throw down some serious cash.  I have been wanting this particular rifle for some time and seemed to never be able to get it, thank God for tax returns.  Thanks guys!
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I would appreciate any feedback from anyone who has used either of theses scopes.
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I don;t know what one is better but If you walk into a ford dealer ship and ask if you should buy a chevy what do you think they will say ?

 It is hard to get a unbiased reply when super sniper is made for SWFA
 
 Before I get trashed I am not saying that you guys don't know what you are talking about and that the ss is better but I have seen on other sites that the other was preferred.WHY?
if the ss is so much better hands down
 
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Do you not see that those very same people are not here on this forum? whats the reason for that? take a look at snipers hide and their reviews everyone knows that forum. also I believe the SS won the military contract? so that says a lot.

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Originally posted by matc matc wrote:

if the ss is so much better hands down

 
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Well Matt, I prefer the SS because it's simpler being a fixed 10x, not as bulky, didn't have the big ass SF wheel, rear focus, had better glass, turrets that I liked better, no crappy lit reticle and I just like the Super Sniper better overall.
 
Is that OK Matt, or I'm I just saying all this because I'm a SWFA shill? Big Grin
 
I tried the Millet out Matt and didn't think it was all that hot, but like I said earlier, I wouldn't consider it "junk" either. It was better than I thought it would be, but I couldn't wait to get my SS back on.  
 
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Originally posted by matc matc wrote:

I don;t know what one is better but If you walk into a ford dealer ship and ask if you should buy a chevy what do you think they will say ?

 It is hard to get a unbiased reply when super sniper is made for SWFA
 
 Before I get trashed I am not saying that you guys don't know what you are talking about and that the ss is better but I have seen on other sites that the other was preferred.WHY?
if the ss is so much better hands down
 
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Matt,
 There are a lot of reasons other sites may choose another optic over the SS, not the least of which might be professional jealousy.  Other reasons might be that they might not actually have USED one or both of the optics in question but merely like to pontificate (one of the reasons I started "hanging out" at this forum... less pontification, more information based upon experience... not to say there isn't some, just much less) and seem more learned than they actually are.  
 There are a number of reasons someone might choose a Millet over the SS, but quality, repeatability, durability are not among them.  You are trying to compare a variable to a fixed power scope, which is almost a non-starter.  However, I have used both, don't own either.  The only reason I don't own a SS is because I have just had other priorities and have not had the specific instance that requires me to get one.  I DO intend to own one in the near future.  The reasons I don't own a Millet of the type you describe are several, but one in particular is that I just don't have confidence in it yet.  In my mind, I need to test it more before I can comfortably say I would use it on anything other than an AR-15 or similar rifle.  I don't have one of those, so I just don't have the need for one.  
It is very difficult to ask someone, even a very experienced rifleman, to make a valid comparison of a fixed vs variable scope and then to make a suggestion.  You asked and you got honest opinions.  
I have NO affiliation with SWFA other than this forum and a few scope purchases.  I will, however, go out on a limb and say that you will not find better customer service anywhere, you will not find more integrity anywhere, and IF they offer up a product with the SWFA "stamp" on it, it will be a cut above similarly priced items.  In the case of the SS, it is better than that.  All that said, I don't believe anyone who has responded to you has indicated what YOU should purchase, only their own experience and comfort level based upon that experience.   ONCE AGAIN, YOU asked.  
If you don't want the answer, don't ask the question.

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I don't go on sniper forums but don't millett have a good review on one of those I thought I read ?  maybe not

 I think cheaptrick is right on the fixed power being a better choice.
more simple.
 
The other sites are not owned  by a scope com. So there would be no resone to lie.
 
But I have also seen on them sites say that ss is better. I think that they are very close with what I read . I think that millett and ss both have a following .
 
someday I hope to see one of these ss 
 
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Matt, I as well don't own one but plan on it soon just from the positive response I have seen on this forum and others I have seen more negative towards the millet. And to tell you the truth I once bought some Millet rings and they sucked big time, and their add says if you like are rings you will love are scopes ......not me I wont even consider....IMO      Wink
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Well, Matt, I didn't mean to get you into so much trouble.  I have read all the positive feedback from here and other sites about the Super Sniper, we are all in agreement that they are great.  However the only "positive" feedback I get on the Millett is from my local gun dealer who readily promotes Millett, Nikon, and NCstar?  I appreciate all the feedback that you guys have given, I will make my decision by Thursday of this week (thats payday)...lol.   Thank all of you!
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Originally posted by matc matc wrote:

I don't go on sniper forums but don't millett have a good review on one of those I thought I read ?  maybe not

 I think cheaptrick is right on the fixed power being a better choice.
more simple.
 
The other sites are not owned  by a scope com. So there would be no resone to lie.
 
But I have also seen on them sites say that ss is better. I think that they are very close with what I read . I think that millett and ss both have a following .
 
someday I hope to see one of these ss 
 
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Well, big boy, sniper central did do a review of the Millet.  However, if you notice, durability and repeatability were not mentioned, quality was mentioned in the negative.  Sniper's Hide reviewed the SS and ALL of those features were addressed, positively.  There are several other sites which have reviewed the SS, as well.  My personal use has been samples of one, but the overall "feel" goes to SS.  Going into battle, I would take a Super Sniper and leave the Millet behind.  Super Sniper is not the best scope on the market, and it is not the cheapest. However, it is absolutely one of the best around for the price... you get more than what you pay for.  Not many scopes can actually live up to that claim.  

Your implication that someone on this forum may lie is out of line.  Way out of line.  

It is easy to see a Super Sniper scope... buy one.  
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Originally posted by matc matc wrote:

 I think cheaptrick is right on the fixed power being a better choice.
more simple.
 
The SS a better choice for ME and my shooting.    
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Five, I don't have any affiliation with SWFA other than a happy customer. I've owned both scopes. See FOP range report for my review of a SS.  LOL 

Buy the Super Sniper and don't waste your money.
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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

See FOP range report for my review of a SS.    

 
No kidding.   Excellent 
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From my experience of Millet sights I would prefer the original sights of my pre 1900 Winchester modell 94 takedown to those lowest quality scopes..........
 
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I post here but have no formal affiliation with SWFA - just a happy customer.

Millett ain't a bad scope, and I don't think anyone is saying they are.  For the money, you get what you pay for.

The point I think many are trying to make is that the SS is a great deal on a scope, the Millett is an "OK" deal.

Glass is better on the SS, build quality is better (in my opinion), durability is better, precision and accuracy are better, and repeatability is great.

The Millett has had some ups and downs, especially with Bushnell acquiring them.  If you really want the Millett, get the Millett.

I'd recommend the Super Sniper, but that's just me - and many, many more.
Go back to the SuperSniper page and read the reviews listed there, they are by people other than SWFA employees.


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I have the Millett , 2 of them actually and they are good for the money, I had to send the generation I back to Millett and they immediately sent me a generation 4. I shot cheaptrick`s super sniper and it does have better optics and is easier to use but it is not a variable scope. If you are target shooting the super sniper would be my choice, if you are hunting too I would go with the Millett to be able to use a lower than 10 power and have the benefit of the wider angle of field at 4 power.
just my thoughts on this
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Hey 5 what part of Alabama you in?  We should get hold of Kick boxer and go shooting sometime. PM me!!! 
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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

Five, I don't have any affiliation with SWFA other than a happy customer. I've owned both scopes. See FOP range report for my review of a SS.  LOL 

Buy the Super Sniper and don't waste your money.
 
that is very fine shooting good job to anybody that can do that.
but did you look at the reply and post I made ? I don't think it justify that your ss is better NO?
I could give you a few year of targets that was used with a millett. The new 223 is all new rifle scope and all and with only 11 rounds is under .5 and that is with finding zero at 50 and 100 yards. you can see it for yourself.
With that said I would not say that you wasted your money and your scope is junk. because its not but you have no problem telling me I wasted mine. For what ? There is nothing you can do with your scope that I can't do just as good or better with a millet. This could be do to your shooting skills and mine not the scope. so this proves nothing.
I will tell you that my millett that I have on my 308 will hold its zero from 100 to 500. belive me I tyed to find I week spot on the scope and came up with nothing. I would go from 100 to 500 to 300 and so on . It pasted or I would be singing a diffrent tune.
 
I am not saying to go out and by a millett but if the ss is so much better I want to know because I would like to get one but I need real info.
 
thank you for all the replys and not trashing  I guess I will just have to get one but I will not be selling any milletts for itWhacko
 
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The SS is a nice scope.  I got one recently and while I have only put it on a .22 rimfire, I like it a lot.  The adjustments are precise the glass is very very nice for a $400 scope.  And if you spend some time reading reports of them they are crazy tough.  From withstanding .50 cal rifles to being run over by a truck and everything between a Super Sniper has been there and done that. 

I have never even looked through a Millet, but there is a lot of talk of quality control issues and subpar optical quality with them.  But for the price you pay what more can you expect. 

That is where the SS really shines, you are actually getting more than you pay for.
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don't have a dog in this hunt. but i'm selling my Leupold and getting a SS for my dedicated long range rig.
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If your dealer recommends NcStar this should tell you a lot. How does he feel about BSA?Between the Millet and SS it may depend on how you plan to use the scope. If using for target I would get the SS. If hunting that may get very close and fast, the variable may be the best for you. Technically the SS should out preform the Millet. But if you have running game up close the variable will be better if at low power to give a wider field of view. It has to be your decision.

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