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.300 WSM, REMINGTON 700 CUSTOM

                                                                                                                     By. Jeremy Hanks

 

Action.-Remington 700 short action.

Barrel.-Shilen heavy 25.5” 1/10 twist.

Chamber.-300 WSM.

Stock.-Synthetic.

Extractor.-Sako style large.

Rings.-DSA low tactical steel.

Base.-Custom 25 MOA steel one piece.

Finish.-Teflon

Scope.-SWFA- SS10X42M Mil-Dot.

Bipod.-Harris low-notched legs.

Scope caps.-Buttler creek.

This gun also has an oversized bolt handle, 2lb trigger and an oversized bedding lug.

 

 

I am a big .308 fan so when the new .300 WSM came out I was excited to see what it could do in a Remington short action but I soon found out that Remington was not going to chamber their guns for the new cartridge because they had their own .300 SAUM.

The two cartridges are very close in size and shape but the Winchester has a small advantage over the Remington as far as velocities are concerned.

I wanted to build a good long-range sniper style rifle and I was able to do all of the gunsmith work my self-which was great because I could take as much time and put as much work as I wanted into it.

When I go shooting, I shoot from 100 yards to 2000 yards depending on the gun I am using. I wanted to build this gun for shooting targets out to 1500 yards so I used a Remington 700 short action that I got from my 22.250, it had about 7500 rounds through it and it was about due for a new barrel anyway. Their was some careful work in opening the bolt face , installing the new Sako style extractor and truing the action , it ended up working great.

From their I put a heavy 25.5” Shilen barrel with 1/10 twist that I reamed as .300 WSM and put a nice crown on it.

I installed an oversized bedding lug and a large bolt handle, which is easy to grab with gloves. I set the trigger at a crisp 2 lbs and put a good recoil pad on which makes long shooting sessions easy.

 

 

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I ordered a Super Sniper 10X42M that is equipped with 30MM tube, Ľ MOA audible clicks, large turrets that are easy to grip in any conditions including a side parallax knob that is great when shooting from a prone position. It has an etched Mil-Dot reticule in the round army style and comes with a lifetime warranty. Just incase you were wondering this scope is no longer made by Tasco , S.W.F.A owns the rights to the Super Sniper now, they have set higher standards for the current production models .I thought about getting a 16 power scope but I think this 10 power will do good in heat and close range shooting.

I have a SS16X42 along with a 20 MOA base on my .50 BMG, I have made several hits on 20” targets at 1760, and 2000 yards, I have never had a problem with it returning to zero.

One thing I can say is this is my favorite style of scope; they have been very precise and very dependable.

I put a Harris model low-notched bipod on it.

The entire rifle weighs 12.5 lbs and the recoil is nothing like the original magnum it is comfortable to shoot like a .308. After everything was assembled, I was into the rifle just over $1800.00.

Of all the bullets I tried, I went with Sierra 200 gr BTHP and 62 grains of IMR4831 at an average of 2756 fps this was the best load with average groups well under 1 inch..

One thing I would like to mention about the 210gr vld Burger bullets is after I got a zero I was able to put a three shot group that measured 17.5”on a 20”X24” target at 1200 yards. I also think that this would be a great load that would give you around 2000 lbs of energy out to 600 yards.

With the new barrel I cleaned it about every 10 rounds for the first 100 then I went to every 25 rounds from their on. For testing, I have a digital rangefinder that goes to 1635 yards on a clear day if I use a reflective target for it. I have a chronograph that is important in evaluating the spread in velocities and the effect of heat or freezing conditions, it will also gives me an indication of how well I am reloading or how consistent factory ammo is.

I try not to use anything more than a bipod and a good butt support when I am testing from a bench this way I still learn skills that I need to shoot away from the bench.

I start at 100 yards and work my way out to 800 yards in 50-yard increments, after 800 I go in 25-yard increments, this could take days or even weeks to complete not to mention 300 rounds or better of good ammo. The whole time I am charting how many clicks I need to move my crosshairs in order to hit my target. There are many charts and calculators out their that will give you an estimation of a rifles trajectory but you never really know until you do this kind of testing.

I have found these charts helpful at close ranges but after 400 yards, they can vary dramatically and out at 1000 yards they can be off ten feet or more so the best thing to do is gather as much info as you can then enter it into your calculator and this will help your next trip to the range easier.

I take all of the information that I gather and make a chart that I can tape to my gun in a spot that is easy to read in my shooting positions.

Shooting the .300, WSM at ranges out to 1500 yards was easier than I had planed due to its flatter trajectory , accuracy and speed advantage over the .308.

I did a lot of 100 to 500 yard testing with the 168 gr AMAX because this is about as far as most people will target shoot and it is within the area most people do their hunting. From 100 to about 325 yards the bullet only dropped 10 inches with a 100- yard zero. I set the scope for 300 yards , this seemed to be a good zero because it only had a high point of +4.5”at 175 yards ,a 9” drop to 400 yards and a 26” drop at 500 yards with more than 2200 ft/lbs of knock down power which would be great for hunting game. My best group at 500 yards was 1.53”.

At 500 yards, my drop was only 42”with a 100 yard zero and at 1000 yards; it was 220”, which is about 140” better than my .308. It was not until after 1000 yards that I started to see a major down curve in trajectory for instance at 1200 yards, it dropped 417” and at 1500 yards it had dropped 810” from the 100 yard zero. You might say 810 inches how can you have any control over the bullet or even come close to what you aim at. Well it is not as bad as you think, I was able to hit 15” targets with one to three shots each at 1500 yards and with the scope zeroed at thi

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Jeremy,

 

Very nice stick!

 

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Very, Very cool!!!!!!

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So the Remington 300. Short Action Ultra Mag. should be fairly close to your numbers with the 300. WSM?
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Originally posted by smity25ca smity25ca wrote:

So the Remington 300. Short Action Ultra Mag. should be fairly close to your numbers with the 300. WSM?


The short answer is yes with a slight advantage to the wsm.

What exactly are you wnting to know?
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 Hi Jeremy,

I am new to using scopes on rifles, I use to think they were for snipers and people who had bad eyes.( LOL )

well at 42 my front post started to be fuzzy. Now at 45 the front post is a blurr using even  1 MOA sights.

I'm also changing from a m-14 to a 700 VSF in .308. at ranges out to 600yds.  I have been reading a lot of the threads

here and seem to think a SS 10x42 would be a good scope.  I had a buddy who works for a sporting good store sell me a scope made by a company out in Huntington Beach California. Don't really want to name them but the name has come up in several  threads that it is junk. And I can attest to that. That is how I found your web site. I should have done this before I spent money on poor optics, enough background. My question: Why do you want to keep the paralax error of the scope and bore to a minimum, if you know the balistics of the weapon your firing who cares about the line of sight and the bullet path? Shoudn't you know were the bullet is at any distance anyway?


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It seems to me when I have the Parallax set correctly , meaning that when I move my eye around the reticule dose NOT appear to move around on the target and it is focused properly , My groups are a lot tighter especially beyond three hundred yards .

The scopes setting for Point of impact is the most important thing to me in long range shooting , all the other numbers are handy to know on paper but really don’t mean much when I am out shooting. I just want to hit the target.

All I really care about is the scope has enough elevation with the proper base to get the bullet on target

And the bullet has to have enough energy to get out to the target.

I use to put too much thought in to the numbers , Once I took the equipment to the range and shot further than anyone I personally know I started to see the real capabilities of several calibers from .308 up to 50 BMG.

I really like the Super Sniper scopes for the $ they cant be beat and my personal opinion is you will have to pay $800.00 or more to beat the SS10X42.

I hope this helped.

 

Yes the 300 SAUM is about the same thing.

IF you had a 20-30MOA base Ken Farrel and good Tactical rings like Badger or Burris XTR and a SS10X42 or Leupold M1 you could do the same thing. Shoot a good heavy bullet with a very high co and you will do better than you would ever think. 

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I may have not stated my question right. I'm speaking about the inherent parallax between the scope an barrel bore. Low verses high ring mounts.
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This is a good question and I am not sure I am answering it the way you want.

For long range shooting High mounts seem to give you an advantage with your scope adjustments over the low mounts desired for short range shooting.

I don’t know if you have access to a ballistic calculator but if you want to play with this on PAPER go to this site.

www.biggameinfo.com then go to the calculator , put in your ballistic info then under - Sight Height- , If you have low mounts leave it at 1.5 and if you have High mounts give it 2.-2.5 or 3.

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