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So the new rifle is on the way and will be here next week.  I still need to figure out what scope to put on it.  Right now it's between the Super Sniper 10X or Millett TRS-1.  I'm going to be using this scope for long range shooting 99% of the time which would lend itself to the SWFA 10X, but I like the idea of being able to use it for hunting which makes me think variable power and the 4-16 is pretty nice and the illumination of TRS-1 may come in handy for hunting.
 
Please cast a vote one way or the other and tell us your reasoning why.
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SS10X  Durable and proven.  The TRS-1 has been known more for failures than for acheivement.
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The 10x is still a useable scope for hunting. There are many 10x's out there doing just that. Sure you lose a bit of exit pupil early/late in the hunting day. Bean fields, and cutovers are the ticket many a day hunting anyhow. This would be right up the SS alley.
 
I have fallen off the Millett band wagon. Yes I still own one, and like it, but there has been a terrible drop off lately since the Bushnell acquisition of Millett. Many of us were in hopes that it would manifest itself in the other direction. Right now, I am not recommending Bushnell anything, until they get their CS up to snuff.
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I've used the Millet, liked it pretty well.  No problems, but did not have it long and I've seen lots of tales of woe.  I like the SS better for target shooting for sure, but 10x fixed is a little high for me for hunting, unless I know my ranges will always be 100 yards or more.  If druablity and consistency are primary for you, SS all the way.  There are good TRS-1's out there and they have good CS, from what I hear. 
However there is a quote that goes something like  "a lifetime warraty and excellent customer service don't mean much if your optic fails when the xomies are attacking"...
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Tell us Teddy. What is the budget, and the most likely hunting scenario?
Secondly. Are there other uses intended for the gun/scope set up?
Thirdly. How much over budget is doable, and what features are you looking for?
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Well the budget is probably in the $350 or less range.  Hunting wise it would be an out of state deer hunt likely in heavy woods where there's a max shot distance of 75 yards give or take a little. 

It's going to be a range queen 99% of the time.
 
I've actually been on the fence about buying a SWFA SS 10x for a while and tried to place an order in the past but they were out of stock.  I ended up ordering the SFWA 10X figuring I have enough other scoped rifles I could swap scopes if need be.
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The 10X is a good choice. Solid build, dependable, and good glass. They hold their value well also. Then there is the fantastic SWFA CS.
Use it as a cutover, and beanfield gun where you can reach out a bit, and the light is better for longer during legal hours. This will help to negate the draw backs of hunting with a fixed 10X.
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As luck would have SWFA is still out of stock and it'll be a few weeks.....  Head Banger
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teddy,
 
Have you considered the SS6x.  It will still get you a long ways, and is a much better magnification for all-around hunting.  When I ordered mine several weeks ago, it shipped the same day.
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Teddy we do have a few of the side focus model 10x's available. Bitterroot Bulls is right though. The 6x will still get you out a good ways and 6x42 is the brightest image you can get out of a scope. Excellent choice for the hunter/mid-range tactical shooter.  And we currently have plenty of 6x's available to ship.
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I like the idea of the side focus, but at the same time I want to buy the model of scope that the Super Sniper name was originally built on.  Even though I like the side focus, I'm not sure the convenience of it's worth an extra $100.  The 6X sounds good, but just doesn't spark any interest for me.
 
I'll just set here beating my head against the wall until the 10X I want shows up.  Head Banger
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Gentlemen
 
Seems the past is following the TRS,  as in the past there were times the TRS had some issues, We were not able to supply the demand and we had a problem with some of the inter optics. Bushnell was learning about the Millett line shortly after they purchased the company and the customer service was not up to the standard Bushnell strives fro.
 
 Thats past, the TRS shipped today are excellent, they have the latest features and being shipped with little delay. 
 
Bushnell goal is a Happy customer and if you have a problem it will be taken care of.
 
Good shooting.
 
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Originally posted by KB0WZL KB0WZL wrote:

Gentlemen 
Bushnell goal is a Happy customer and if you have a problem it will be taken care of.
 
Steve
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Steve,

If you could PM me that would be great your PM box is full.
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[QUOTE=teddy12b]I like the idea of the side focus, but at the same time I want to buy the model of scope that the Super Sniper name was originally built on.  Even though I like the side focus, I'm not sure the convenience of it's worth an extra $100.  The 6X sounds good, but just doesn't spark any interest for me.
 
I'll just set here beating my head against the wall until the 10X I want shows up.  Head Banger
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Actually the side focus model is the original model that the Super Sniper name was built on and I have the side focus 10x currently as well as having the 6x currently and in the past I have had the 10x rear focus and the 20x rear focus. I also have two of the 3-9 variables and a 10x HD so when I say that the 6x is an absolutely awesome scope and would be my choice for hunting you can rest assured that I know the good points of the other models but believe the 6x to be a better choice. I see absolutely no reason why even a moderately good shooter could not do well with the 6x at least out to 600 yds.  The truth is simple the 6x has a 7mm exit eye pupil  42mm divided by 6 power equals 7 and the largest your eye pupil is likely to dialate to is 7mm so since the 10x has only a 4.2mm exit eye pupil you will notice a big difference in low light.  In addition most hunters stalking game can usually hand hold a 6 power scope with no rest and get off a quick shot at elusive game animals and with a 10 power scope you will likely need a solid rest.  Do yourself a favor and buy the 6x and before too long you will probably want one of each model aslo but you will always want to keep and use the 6x as it is the brightest of the line in low light when animals come out.  I really wouldn't mind having a half dozen more of the 6x model.
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Well I got tired of waiting for the SS 10X and I had come across a deal too good to pass up on the Millett TRS-1.  I still plan on buying a SS 10X sometime, but I'm not going to stay out of the range during the best part of the year because my scope was on backorder.  I'll let you all know how it handles when I get out to the range next time.
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Originally posted by teddy12b teddy12b wrote:

Well I got tired of waiting for the SS 10X and I had come across a deal too good to pass up on the Millett TRS-1.  I still plan on buying a SS 10X sometime, but I'm not going to stay out of the range during the best part of the year because my scope was on backorder.  I'll let you all know how it handles when I get out to the range next time.
Well... buy once, cry once.  I loved my old TRS-1 and the new one is just as good, except I forgot that the elevation knob doesn't have any markings to show how many rotations you've made.  This is a pretty big deal breaker for me as I like to shoot at long range.
 
So I just placed an order for the $400 SS10X and I hope it's everything those scopes are cracked up to be.  Once it gets delivered I'll mount it up and bore sight it.  I'm looking forward to it.
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Teddy,
 
I consider the 10X the best all-around fixed power magnification. The SS works great from 30 feet on out on squirrels. Just takes practice.
 
 
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You will like the side focus model and someday if you are into it enough you will want to upgrade to the HD model.  Ive had all the models and the HD is much nicer than the standard line.

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Hello, I'm new to this forum but I have a problem. Ok I purchased a millett trs-1 on Christmas and I had to wait till 2 weeks later to get me some rings. I mounted I on my mossberg .270 100ATR and I went to the range to sight it in. I loosened the hex screw up on the Windage and elevation knobs to zero it and all they do is slip? I can't zero my scope in. A little help here?

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I don't have any experience with this particular scope, but you shouldn't have to loosen any screws to zero it, only to reset the turrets to zero after you're sighted in.  On most scopes, you turn the turrets to adjust the point of impact of your groups to your point of aim.  Once that's done,  you loosen a screw or pop up a turret to disengage it (what you're calling "slip"), and move the turret marking back to zero without disturbing your adjustments.  Then you re-engage the turrets by retightening the screw.   Now you have a scope that's zeroed and turrets that are lined up with a "0" marking so you can move them back to zero if you've made temporary adjustments.
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OHHH ok.... i am new to tactical scopes and this is my first tactical scope so thats why. I am just learning as i go...Now this all adds up! Thank you so much! i feel so dumb now...
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Hello

The screws on top the turrets are captive so you can loose them.  push down on the knob and once aligned tighten the screw and you will be set.

I am the guy that designed the Millett scope and you should have no problem with the set screws.  

Good shooting


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