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G'day.
I was wondering if you's could help me out a bit.

My poor 'old 4x weaver finally bit the dust. I put a knob on the elevation so I could use it as a tactical type set up for different ranges using low velocity ammo. Worked great till it died.(test to see if this would be a good thing..yep it is)

Looking for a replacemant.

Think of a poor mans 300 whisper as a datum point out to 300 yrds .
With out all the fancy hoopla. Still shoots m.o.a. which is fine for me.

I need roughly 54 or so  moa elevation to shoot spot on at that range.

At a 300 yrd max what is available or could be recommended.

4x power I could get a way with ...but a variable be nice I suppose.

7-8 power tops be about as high as I would need need but low light level with the 20mm objective lens means I would be down to 3x in low light wouldn't I???

Need something low power for the scrubby stuff close range but powerfull enough and with enough "clicks" to get right out there.

Something not great big and bulky to up set the balance and feel of my short light rifle

Solutions anyone???


Mid level stuff do me.

 I like  it to last a long  time of "twirling" with out failing.

Just how long do these scopes last with constant manipulation anyways.

Help always appreciated and I try to take advice in hand.

If a great fixed be better than a so-so variable for the money then I'd stay with a fixed and be quite content.
A battery Illuminated retinal I can live with out.
Even a windage turrent.
A Parralax adjustment be nice for close stuff.

Please don't mention a 1-10x Marsh as I'd have to sell the wife 'n kids  for scientific experiments.
Howdy

Barra
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IF you can wait a bit the SS line is about to be out with a 6x that i think would fit the bill good. IF not the 3x9SS would do well too for your purpose. 
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I thought weaver had a life time warranty?

Edited by Sparky - January/10/2010 at 21:31
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The problem with tweener scopes for your application is that most of them do not have tall knobs that are easy to adjust.  They usually come with low profile hunting knobs.

The one exception is Leupold Mark 4 MR/T 2.5-8x36:

Unfortunately it is pretty expensive (and in my opinion overpriced).

You could try Burris XTR 1.5-6x40.  It is a bit on the heavy side, but good in low light and magnification range is about right:

The most inexpensive, but very serviceable scope you should consider is probably Burris FFII 2-7x35 Tactical:

Tac II knobs are actually pretty decent and the scope is nice and compact.  The glass is all right for the money.

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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

I thought weaver had a life time warranty?


Dunno??
But I bought it in about 1982 and it has seen some use.
I think what I done to it may void the warranti...but I think I've had good use out of it.
It owes me nothing!!!

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Originally posted by barrabruce barrabruce wrote:

Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

I thought weaver had a life time warranty?


Dunno??
But I bought it in about 1982 and it has seen some use.
I think what I done to it may void the warranti...but I think I've had good use out of it.
It owes me nothing!!!

 
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That 1.2x6 Burris tactical scope looks the bees knees.
I think Ive figured out the dot spacing to roughly 0 2 4 7 11 15 20 25 MOA at 6x
Errh the 3/4 circle thingo...any ideas of how much that covers and the line witdth plus the dot and the one underneath???

Have not a clue as to how it would look at the low end of power and how easy it would be to see anything thou.

Any ideas???
The burris fullfiels has only 60 moa so about 30 usable or so.
Any ideas on the spacing of those?? I looked at the site but couldn't tell much.

How do the optics rate against a Leo 11 or 111.
I have seen a few and that is about all I get to look through at the shops around here besides 'elcheapo stuff.

When is the 1-6 SS unicon iconed scope coming out??? Next year???

Theere is a new nightforce nxs 2-10 x 35mm too but I doubt if I could wangle on of those.

Barra

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Sorry for the typos but I can't seenm to find where I can get back in there and correct them.
Pic of the scope it will replace.
Fuzzy but some idea anyway.





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SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS39X42
  • Matte
  • First Focal Plane Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 0.1 MRAD
$599.95
I think this scope is about the same size as the one you have and it would give you variable power plus the target knobs and much better glass than your old scope.
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Warne Maxima Permanent Attach 30mm Rings Warne Maxima Permanent Attach 30mm Rings
Stock # - 214M2
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You would need  30mm rings though and these are pretty good rings for the cost.
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Thanks for the input.
Well been a while looking and thinking about this.
Finally got to the range again.Wet season and all.
Errrrghhh.
Yep I think I need an upgrade if I'm gunna get serious with this rifle for its intended purpose.

Been working out the mildot system.in millirads and moa styles reticles.

Still haven't decided on what to get.

Are there any lower or fixed variables with parralax adjustment??
All the ones Iv'e seen under $1000 have none.(way above my budget :( )

Can someone explain to me a couple of things.
With a fixed parralax set-up
If I set the cross hairs in focus and lock it up..then I get a nice clean cross hairs to (100-150yrds but not too bad out yonder at 300 etc
remember I have as much drop and a fair amount of wind at this close range.
Just like shooting a 308 at 7-800 yrds.

But if I fix it on something say 25-50 yrds then the parralax and image is not to clear.
O.k. If I only had to shoot something the size of a dinner plate then all well and good.
But my kill zone being about the size of a ducks  head what does one do???
With parralax adjustment you can get the image clear and parralax out.
 Since most of the lower variable or fixed scope have none what am I supposed to do???

Do I just re-focus the eyepiece for a clearest image and cross hair and do that trick.
O.k. I still will have the parralax ...but a bit better sight picture. (yeah whoopydo yo say)

Not trying to be smart or nothing but how does one say mil read a something at not optimum focus length (100-150yrds)  with a blurry picture???
Seeing that if I can guess the object the right size for a start.
I could easily be out 0.1 or so mils and that would make a fair drop error for a small sized target.


Errgghhh! If I don't have enough troubles with mirage at 300 yrds with my 'ol 4x

Are the vortex any good???
They seem to have a fair bit of adjustment on the dials.

I know most of the blokes around here aren't much interested in the finer points of life.
If they can see / hit  a pig size target at 200 yrds then thats counts as something pretty good.

The "sudo sipers on the hill" with their supposedly 1/2 MOA 338's and 308's you never see turn up. Unless its a still day in a spring and shoot a few 500 yrd gongs (24") and declare to all that they could shoot 1000yds with the best with they're latest hubble attached to a something expensive set up that costs more than a mid sized car and gloat on how much it costs per round to shoot!! ( and compalin and whinge as well)
So I don't listen to them much.   sorry...

Anything else turn up at the shot show that may be an interest to me or something I may have missed???

Workable alternatives???

I can't afford to change scopes so I'd like to get the right one for ..me and this rifle.
Something that will last a lot longer than I can remeber how much or little I actually paid for it.
Not be reminded how much I actually wasted.

Thanks cheers
Barra

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