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Dear Lord....... These people are absolutely shameless...... Now, it's time to point fingers, and shed some tears......This is rich, really rich in fertilizer contenet. Take everything these folks are saying and apply evenly in your garden, or on your lawn. Sit back and watch the green stuff thrive.
 
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi teared up at a Capitol Hill press conference Thursday when she was asked about the increasingly vitriolic tone of the debate over health care.

"We are a free country and this balance between safety and freedom is is one that we have to carefully balance," she said.

Pelosi then slowed her words as she reflected on her own experiences in San Francisco politics, when Mayor George Moscone and city supervisor Harvey Milk were assassinated in 1978.

"I have concerns about some of the language being used because I saw this myself in the late 70s in San Francisco," Pelosi said. "This kind of rhetoric was...was ...very frightening and it created a climate in which we, violence took place and...I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made, understanding that the ears it is falling on are not as balanced as the person making the statement might assume."

Pelosi continued, "Our country is great because people can say what they think and they believe. But I also think they have to take responsibility for any incitement that they may cause."


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Them shameless bastards say what ever whenever just to ride the crest of the political wave and keep themselves on top.  As for her comment "I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made, understanding that the ears it is falling on are not as balanced as the person making the statement might assume."  We are far better balanced than she.  Her privileged life style has removed her from this and she has no desire to return.  Once again, she is thinking of her own skin and not wanting people to really display how they feel, but just be quite and lump it.  Furious
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I find it apalling that she thinks there is a balance between freedom and safety...... We are each responsible for our own safety.... No place does the Constitution give the federal government power to grant personal safety, only the power to defend ones self and those interests. This whole safety premise is the tool that they continually use to thwart freedom, as in their minds freedom isn't a good thing for society.... We are incapable of making decisions for ourselves.... We are incapable of proper gun ownership...... We are incapable of being prudent, self reliant, and responsible. We are incapable of managing our daily lives, and must have them to do so for us. I find it a complete travesty that they have commandeered many words and used the media and the school system to bastardize the meanings of them in order to perpetuate the socialist agenda. These people are complete buffoons..... They assume entirely too much, and it will bite them in the ass in due course. God willing freedom will still exist when the sheeple wake up.
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What kind of INCITEMENT are they trying to set us up for??  

This is getting REALLY WEIRD..... like they are going to have to declare Martial Law....

 
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 I honestly don't believe he has the backing for enforcement even if he did declare it.
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Whatever Bill that they foist upon us must have the condition that THEY MUST be on it, too!!!   Or NO DEAL.  
 
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H1N1 (Swine Flu) Read EPIDEMIC, and FEMA.
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OK... But don't you guys think that insurance and health care need fixing?
 
I pay several thousand dollars a year for health insurance through the city... It comes with a $3000.00 deductable per person before the insurance ever pays anything... Thats $9000.00 I pay before insurance does anything...  Why have it?
 
I went to the Dr. the other day because of this acid reflux I have suddenly come down with... The medicine is $193.00 and insurance told me they would not give me any money for it... Again, why have insurance?
 
I know, Generic, but I have used the generic and it does nothing for me... Dr. says the new medicine will... So Why do I spend so much money a year and when I need help I don't get it... I hate insurance companies.... Its a scam!!! 
 
And now we a President who says hes gonna fine us if we don't have it.... Oh, thats gonna make things a lot better....BuckyLoco
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What they are planning isn't a fix. It's a gimme program that they will force upon you, and I. Believe me when I tell you, your costs are gonna go up, and coverage will decrease. Think about the Emergency room and the vast numbers there that haven't any insurance. They still get the coverage, and those that can pay pay, more. Look at the lines and waiting times, because of those that are there with nothing more than a headache. Do you honestly think what they are pushing is gonna fix the problem? The truthful answer is NO. What they are pushing is more Government. They have no desire to fix the system. Opening up competition is what drives cost down. Cutting taxes on corporations is what drives costs down. These are the real fixes, but they don't allow for Government expansion, and thus election year issues used as a carrot for the voting base. That is what they are really after. What they will never do, is actually fix anything. Unless it is something that doesn't need any fixing. Then they will do their best to fix it real good.
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When the Doctors and medical professionals are reduced to Minimum wage who will you go to. Ghost Busters!

The Drug manufactures and Medical supply companies are a huge part of the problem.
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I'll put up with any shortcomings in the Health Field and KEEP THE BILL OF RIGHTS. 
 
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

I'll put up with any shortcomings in the Health Field and KEEP THE BILL OF RIGHTS. 
 
 
 
You DA MAN Ed! +1
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Originally posted by Trays 7940 Trays 7940 wrote:

OK... But don't you guys think that insurance and health care need fixing?
 
I pay several thousand dollars a year for health insurance through the city... It comes with a $3000.00 deductable per person before the insurance ever pays anything... Thats $9000.00 I pay before insurance does anything...  Why have it?
 
I went to the Dr. the other day because of this acid reflux I have suddenly come down with... The medicine is $193.00 and insurance told me they would not give me any money for it... Again, why have insurance?
 
I know, Generic, but I have used the generic and it does nothing for me... Dr. says the new medicine will... So Why do I spend so much money a year and when I need help I don't get it... I hate insurance companies.... Its a scam!!! 
 
 
 
 
 
And now we a President who says hes gonna fine us if we don't have it.... Oh, thats gonna make things a lot better....BuckyLoco
 
 
 
 
A $3000.00 deductable!    That's criminal. I thought our local law officiers were being shafted but looks like your department is as bad or worse. I don't know what you are paying but I'd do some shoppin around for a better deal. When I could afford insurance it was 7000. a yr. for my family of three with a 300. deductable. I hated paying out so much but when my wife had some (Still undiognosed) health issues I was glad to have it. Only 500. out of pocket and the rest 24,400 went on the policy.
Now I'm on dissability and there is no insurance except my service connected stuff. And this jerk says we will be fined if we don't buy coverage. I'd like to get right in his face and knock his teeth down his throat. My family needs coverage and what is he going to do except make things harder. Furious
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It's a total scam.......Sam....
 
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Parkland  Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Texas is a fairly famous  institution and for a variety of reasons:


1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963
2. Lee Harvey Oswald  died there shortly after
3. Jack Ruby-who killed Lee  Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later..by  coincidence

    On the flip side, Parkland is also  home to the second busiest maternity ward in the country  with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year.  (That's almost 44 per day---every day)

   A recent  patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women  who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of  2006 were illegal immigrants. That's  
11,200  anchor babies born every  year just in Dallas .

 According to the article,  the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering 15,938  babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8  million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in  $34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3  million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.

The average patient in Parkland is  maternity wards is 25 years old, married and giving  birth to her second child.
She  is also an illegal immigrant.
By law,  pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on  their immigration status or ability to pay.

OK,  fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care  than everyday, middle-class American citizens. But at   Parkland Hospital , they do. " Parkland Memorial   Hospital has nine prenatal clinics.  
NINE.

The   Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman  who was a patient at one of the clinics and pregnant  with her third child---her previous two were also born  at Parkland . Her first two deliveries were free and the  Mexican native was grateful because it would have  cost
$200  to have them in Mexico . This  time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and  $100 for the delivery but she was unsure if she could  come up with the money. Not that it matters, the  hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even  bother asking at this point.)

"How long has this  been going on?  What are the long-term  effects?

Well, another subject of the article was  born at Parkland in 1986 shortly after her mother  entered the US illegally - now she is having her own  child there as well. (That's right, she's technically a  US citizen.)

These women receive free prenatal  care including medication, nutrition, birthing classes  and child care classes. They also get freebies such as  car seats, bottles, diapers and formula.

Most of  these things are available to American citizens as well  but only for low-income applicants and even then, the  red tape involved is almost  insurmountable.

Because these women are illegal  immigrants, they do not have to provide any sort of  legitimate identification - no proof of income. An  American citizen would have to provide a social  security number which would reveal their annual income -  an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the  hospital must take them at their  word.


Parkland Hospital offers indigent care  to Dallas


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