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    Posted: March/26/2009 at 14:40
OK. I'm mounting a scope using the "standard" dovetail sysytem. The general consensus is that the rear ring mount screws are for windage adjustment. This doesn't sit well with me so here I am. Seems to me that if you use these screws for windage you would torque the scope. Had I designed this system my intent would have been to use these screws to elliminate torque due to the front ring not being square with the mount. I'm guessing the proper procedure would be to tighten the front ring assembly on to the scope, then snug the rear screws a little at a time from each direction until torqued. There's a lot of lateral and rotational play available to align the rear rings with the front. How far down the rabbit hole have I gone here?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rancid Coolaid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/26/2009 at 14:46
First and foremost, I am completely against these mounting systems - dovetailed with rear adjust.  I've seen far too many fail.  My advice is to avoid them at all costs.


You hae fallen down the same hole all who mount these have/will.

My recommendation: cut your losses, buy a different setup, be glad your rig didn't fail at the worst possible time.

Murphy loves the shooting sports, and his law applies more to dovetailed mounts than anything else I've seen.  Except maybe punks shooting Glocks. And SKSs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jetwrnch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/26/2009 at 21:00
To my knowledge this is the only mount available for my Remington 600 unless I spring for a Conetrol.
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Warne makes them, too. They are a quality mount system.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/27/2009 at 06:13
jetwrnch,
Amen!  I'm in total agreement; I think the standard fixed dovetail front, rear windage screw mounts HAVE to create stress in the scope tube.  Keep in mind that if you don't want to change to a different mount base setup, there is one fix that you can use that wouldn't involve changing your bases.  You can use the Burris Signature rings with the polymer inserts that rotate with the angle of the scope tube.  This way, it won't matter how much you move the rear windage screws, the inserts will compensate inside the rings for any misorientation between front and rear rings.  The Leupold and Burris rings for this mounting system are interchangeable with one another.
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The 600 only has 3 mount holes. Seems like the Warne two piece design would be iffy with only one screw in the rear miount. Was the dovetail mount system designed when scope tubes were made of steel?

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