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I recently ordered a SS20x. Im having doupts now it I should have bought the SS10x.

Im using 30-06 175gr HPBT NM ammo. I have the reach for 800-1000yrd shots.
I ordered the 20x for my old eyes, so I can see the smaller targets at distance.

what Im wondering is about the 100-300 yard shots.

I know I'll have less side view, I can live with that.


Is the 20x magification more of a hinderence below a certain range?

Should I return the 20x in favor of the 10x, or deal with the less than optimum close in view?




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I own both scopes and there are advantages to both scope. The 10x is a better choice for most people.  The 20x will work just fine at any distance from 10 yds on out but where you will have problems is later in the evening the 20x will not let sufficient light through to see as late as the 10x will. The relationship between the size of the front objective and the power of the scope is discussed at length. So if you are a daytime target shooter the 20x is fine but if you are a hunter or tactical shooter the 10x is better and even 10x is a bit much for anything moving. You can use either and I have used both. At Camp Perry they shoot 1000 yds with open sights  and a 10 x at 1000 yds is like having a 1x at 100 yds, with 20x its like 1x at 50 yds. As for the 20x if you shoot prarie dogs at distance you want the added power. If you need better target identification at distance to see which deer has a better rack you may want the 20x.

Each has its place.

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Early morning light is important, but so is counting the spikes :-)

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This is where a variable becomes quite useful. Example rifle season in Iowas lower counties last year, late afternoon. I had a Savage 10FP .308 sniper rifle with Leupold Mark 4 Fixed 10x M3 scope and my son had my Remmington PSS 700 .308 sniper rifle with Leupold Mark 4 8.5-25x50. I'm sitting across the hill toasty warm it the truck and see seven deer come into the field. From where he is he can see them also but with the 25x he is able to determine that one is a young buck which should not be shot because the tag is antlerless only. I can see the deer at 500 yds and no problem being able to kill one but at 500 yds and a fixed 10x - What horns? I cant see them. So you can use the 10x and a spotting scope or you can use a high power variable. The way I look at it is  8.5 is less than 10x and when I need additional power for target identification or looking at the holes in the paper target I have it.

 

Actually a 4.5-14 x50 VXIII with a 30mm tube and Boone and Crocket reticle would be my top choice for a deer rifle but any of these can be used each with its own limitations. As for the 20x I do think that in low light you will not be entirely happy and for a deer hunter thats when you need all the help you can get if on the other hand you were shooting prarie dogs in bright day light the 20x would be great.



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No P-dogs here. Have to drive 4 hours just to find groundhogs.

I had a 4-16 var mildot on this rifle. where the mildot only worked at 10x. Too much time spent rolling the magifier, then looking to see if Im back on 10x to use the mildot. One of the points to getting a fixed rez scope.

I think Ill deal with the low light problem, and trade off for being able to see further.

Thanks for your input




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Just unboxed my 20x SS.

Great day time optics, very clear. I can paint a stop sign thats over a mile away from my house, free handing the scope.

As dusk fell, so did the clairity. Just as exspected.

Now waiting on my ring mounts.....


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Leupold VXIII 4.5x14 30mm tube is one of the very best hunting scopes out there. Both of my hunting rifles are topped with them.

 

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Hi Garrand.I have the SS 20x also.I was feeling the same way as you when I got my ssx20.I'm glad I got it.It's very clear,even early in the morning.I use it for just target.I can see my shots hit the target,And see the hole clearly No need for A spotting scope.I shoot from 100yards to over 1000.Give your x20 A chance,I think you will like it alot.Later I will buy the SSx10 for one of my other guns.After getting my SSx20 and looking through it,There was no was I was going to send it back.After looking through yours you will feel the same way.   BUY.   TOM.FLA.SHOOTER.
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After you get really used to liking the 20x buy a 10x for another rifle and when you get it you will be screaming with joy and jumping up and down. I'm not willing to give up my 20x but I am just blown away at the quality of the 10x with side focus and I have two Leupold Mark 4 Long Range Tacticals to compare to.
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

buy a 10x for another rifle .


One man, one rifle, one shot, one kill.

Im kinda funny that way :-) 

Only one tactical rifle for me.

My second rifle, I did build myself also. It is a 45 cal 1810 flintlock,  I'll leave it with iron sights  :-)
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