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I have a NF on my AR50, but was thinking of changing it since I do not get to shoot it as often as I would like. And put the NF on something else. So I was thinking of a SS 10x or a 16x. My other choice would be an IOR 10x42, 16x42 or the 10x56. So how much better is the IOR glass over the SS glass? I am also open to any thoughts on other scopes. I was thinking of about $900 or less as a budget.
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SS 3-9 FFP Mil Dot. Mil Radian adjustments.... Cough Cough....
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I have heard the the 56mm IOR is more prone to failures than the other two 42mm models.  That is just hearsay though. 

Depending on how far you are shooting regularly I would go with the SS either 10x or 16x.  If your shooting is under 1000 yards I would get the 10x or the upcoming 3-9x, past that I would go with the 16x. 
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since you can't shoot both  at the same time, why not set the mounts to work on both guns and just use the NF???

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( is there really an upcoming SS 3X9? )   Shocked
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 And what about the new 10X SS ...Chris ?
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Thanks for the replies. I did a search on IOR and it seems that their CS is a hit or miss. Plus there are some other issues with IOR so they are out. I had thought about using it on two different guns but even with documenting the E/W settings I would think that I would still need to do some fine tuning.

The new SS 10x sounds interesting. What is the difference between the new and old? Better glass?

And I really do not think I need a 3-9x for a 50. I would probably just leave it set on 9x so why have a variable? Or is there a reason? But for my Volquartsen 10/22 it just might be the ticket. Does it have an AO or SF? And if so what is the minimum setting?

Once agian thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.
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Virtually all IOR issues stemmed from the 35mm tubed scopes, and most of them was from the 3-18x snipers hide edition.  Which I now have one of the generation 3s and it is doing very good.   The 30mm tubes will be crazy tuff, especially the fixed power scopes.  I have a fixed 4x and it in on an AR that I use and abuse it like crazy.  It bounces around on my fourwheeler gun rack and really gets shook up.  But it always keeps zero and I have never had a problem with it.

The SS scopes are crazy tuff too.  The IOR will have nicer glass and if you plan on sitting behind the scope a lot and shooting long distance that will help with eye fatigue and seeing through the mirage a little better.  But durability wise the SS will be tough to beat.
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It depends on your time frame. If you need it right away I'd buy the 10x Super Sniper.  If you can afford to wait a few months the variable Super Sniper will be out followed shortly by the High Definition Glass version of the 10x    --   Super Sniper 10x HD.  Naturally the time frame has not been fully disclosed (but rumored for several years and expected to occur within 3 to 6 months).    Waiting is painful so I'd suggest you just buy one that's available now as demand will be high when they do show up and who knows if Army will take them all ....etc.  All I know for sure is Koshkin gets the first one and I'm at the bottom of the list. Stare For saying a unicorn  should be laser engraved on it.Whistling  You might consider the 20x as it has a reduced price which suggest this will be the last of them.
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

( is there really an upcoming SS 3X9? )   Shocked
 
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I like the SS 10x but when I look at the SWFA scope rating scale and they are in the same category as a Leo VX II. That makes me hesitate. The IOR was in the same category as the NF. So that is why I was concidering them.

I think I will wait for the SS 10x HD or the 3-9x. And see what they are like.

Thanks.
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Just to note. that scale is heavily rated towards hunting type scopes not so much tactical scopes.  I have 3 IORs and a 10x SS.  While the IORs do have better glass the SS is equal in every other way in my opinion. 

Adjustments on either will be precise, they will both be durable.  I personally have had good experiences with IOR customer service but others have not so it is more of a gamble.  I can say with near certainty if you have trouble with a SS you will have top notch customer service. 

It really comes down to whether or not you want to spend the extra money for nicer glass.  I am quite pleased with the glass quality of my SS for a day scope.  I admit I have not spend hours sitting behind it like I have my 3-18x IOR which I suffer very little from eye fatigue using that scope.  IOR glass is superb.  So I cannot say if that will be an issue for me with the SS.  People I shoot with with lessor optical quality scopes do complain about eye fatigue when I have never suffered from it as of yet, but that could be partly my eyes vs. their eyes as well. 

I have a friend that put a 16x SS on a .50 and is just loving it.  Nice thing is where they are only $320, in the future if you decide you want something different you are not going to lose much when you resell it.  They are great scopes and will serve you well.
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