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This is another “two rifles – two scopes” question, but here I only have one scope and need to choose the other.  I wasn’t in a huge hurry, but mention of the SS Black Friday promotion in Damifino’s “SS 3x9x42 Glass” thread has me tempted, since the same scope is one I’d been thinking about anyway.

 

The two rifles are an Imbel-manufacturered FAL imported by SA in the 80’s and a SA M1A.  Both are just basic non-match, non-accurized, full length barrel & fixed buttstock more-or-less “GI battle rifles” chambered for 7.62 NATO.  Nothing fancy.  As they are, I ordinarily would not be scoping them, but at age 52 it now seems that shooting tight groups at rifle distances with irons is a thing of the past.  “Minute of zombie” – sure, but that’s about it.  Because I also own an FAL Para (which will ultimately receive an RDS), I’ve been planning for some time to send the full-sized FAL to a certain specialist for conversion to a sub-MOA DMR-type weapon.  I would probably never accurize the M1a – if I ever decide to spring for an accurized M14-type I’ll probably get an LRB forged receiver to build it on.  I can’t imagine hunting with either weapon, since I have normal hunting rifles chambered for cartridges that can do anything .308 can do.

 

The scope is a Meopta 1-4x22 Meostar R1 K-dot, currently in a Larue QD mount.  It used to be on an M4gery, where it was replaced by an Aimpoint.  The plan was to test each rifle with match ammo and the scope, and leave it (for now) on whichever shot the tighter group.  Later, when I accurize the FAL it would get a new scope more suitable for longer range use, and the M1A would receive the K-dot for keeps.  So, I put Picatinny rail mounts on both.  Then I found the Larue works on the DSA FAL rail top cover but not on the M1A Basset Machine mount.  According to Basset their mount isn’t really an in-spec Picatinny M1913 but “beefed up”, but does work with Weaver rings.  So, I can swap out the Larue mount for the Weaver rings to run my test, or I can go ahead and get the second scope now.  That could still end up with swapping mounts/rings, but I get glass on both rifles sooner.  Or maybe I just want an excuse to buy a new scope (Merry Christmas to me!).

 

OK, some additional points about the application.  I’m not in law enforcement, and am retired from the military but a service that isn’t big on small arms (bet from my handle you can’t guess which that is).  I just like collecting & shooting military surplus rifles & clones thereof.  However, I like them capable of use as intended, even if I doubt I’ll ever need to.  The longest range to which I have access is 600 yards, and even in the zombie apocalypse I think I’d be evading rather than shooting at targets farther away than that.  In the spirit of the DRM thing, though, I want a variable with a fairly low (3X max) bottom range for use at 100y or less, at least 6x top range (with >10X definitely overkill IMO) for use at 600y, a relatively small objective to mount it closer to the bore (42mm max), and a reticle with some sort of ranging capability just in case I ever am using it off a KD range.

 

The SS 3-9x42 fits the spec and seems to come well recommended, and just because I might be will to spend more doesn’t mean I want to do so unnecessarily.  Although I am ok with 1”, since the K-dot is 30mm it does simplify things if the new scope is too (since then the Larue mount can be used on the FAL with either scope and the same set of Weaver rings with either on the M1A).  Lots of other stuff, both much cheaper & much more expensive, also seems to fit the spec.  Anything else I should seriously consider?

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To me scoping a FAL is kinda like scoping an AK.  I watched my bud mess with this scope and that dust cover...  Putting the front sight on a lathe would have gotten the same groups.  If you are going to have the FAL worked on then... get them, to get you a spare dust cover set up as well. 
 
The M1a has a better selection of mounting hardware.  If you are under 2" groups then that is good without some serious work.
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Originally posted by silver silver wrote:


To me scoping a FAL is kinda like scoping an AK.  I watched my bud mess with this scope and that dust cover...  Putting the front sight on a lathe would have gotten the same groups.  If you are going to have the FAL worked on then... get them, to get you a spare dust cover set up as well. 
 

The M1a has a better selection of mounting hardware.  If you are under 2" groups then that is good without some serious work.


The point of the thing is that my vision isn't up to 2" groups at 100y with irons no matter what the rifle might do in other hands.

I have the DSA rail cover mount installed and that seems rock solid. If the rifle doesn't shoot well scoped, I doubt that the mount or scope will be to blame. If the M1A ends up shooting better out of the box, so be it.

The question at this point is just really whether to bite on whatever the sale price turns out to be one the SS 3-9x.
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