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Been wanting an FFP for a long time without spending a ton....any thoughts on which of the better for these two?  I think I missed them on here when they were on sale, dont see them available any more.
 
Would be going on my DPMS SASS...leaning toward the Bushnell because of the extra mag, illuminated reticle, and the rainguard, have a 4200 already and like it.  Dont have any night time hunting plans, just thought would be nice to have for less money.  Bushy about 60 bucks less then SS.
 
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Personally I hate Bushnell's CS department so in the event you had an issue thats a concern of mine.  The extra mag on the top end doesn't really do anything for me as 9X is plenty. Also with no night hunting in the future illumination is pretty much just an extra feature that can cause failures so no need for it.  Bottom line the 3-9SS gets my vote here.  Its got a better track record as far as support in the event you could ever break it as well as superb glass and reliablity
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On the rifle you are using I would take the SS 3-9X42. I own two of them and shoot steel out to 800 yards. With the SS your money is going into the quality of the glass and accuracy of the adjustments. It is a rugged package with excellent support. Nine power is good to 1000 yards on IPSC targets and you do not have a parallax adjustment to slow you down.
 
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I was actually thinking the parallax adjustment would be a good thing...I like having that, but understand it could be faster.

 

How you would rate the glass between the 2? Is one better or pretty much similar?

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The SS will have a slight edge
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The need for parallax adjustments depends on your application. If you consider your rifle to be a precision rifle and will be shooting small targets at long range you would want higher power and parallax adjustments for optimal accuracy. If you consider your rifle to a DM rifle, i.e. rapid fire at various distances, the parallax is a pain in the posterior. You will find that the adjustment really slows you down when shifting between 700 yards and 250 yards. I've been using two SS 3-9X42 scopes mounted on a LMT MWS and a M1A NM for about 18 months and have put better than 3000 rounds on steel IPSC targets out to 800 yards. I've tried higher power, "side focus" scopes and find them no more accurate at the ranges I shoot but much slower.
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I did watch that review today where they explode something with the elite 4200 on it, carry it around on back of atv, and generally beat the crap out of the 4200 in question and it held up quite nicely.  It made me about cry to see what he intentionally did to that rifle and scope.

 
I think that took away any questions of ruggedness i had....

 

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Thought I would offer my thoughts on the Bushnell since I own one. 

It is a decent scope, I bought a SPS Tactical in .223 on a whim at the same time the closeouts started and it seemed like a good fit.  The glass is very good... not the best in the buisness but for the price of admission decent.  On mine the Mil adjustments and reticle match perfectly, track accurately and I have experienced no POI shift with mag. changes.  Thats the good.
 
The bad... If your buying it based on it having an Illuminated reticle I wouldn't becuase the system in this scope is terrible, one of the worst I have seen.  The verticle portion of the reticle is 2x the brightness the horizontal is... and overall to bright.  If you needed to make a shot on a dark target in low light it would work, but I never really liked Illuminated reticles so my solution was to take the battery out.
 
I think for an AR-10 the SS 3-9 would be a better fit.  On a 3-9 parallax error is usually minimal, and since you have the SASS and they come with a PRS but stock you can easily maintain a perfect cheek weld, so I don't see the lack of parallax adjustment a hinderance it would be more of a help.  The SS will be as durable and probably more so and have better glass.  Now I don't own one yet so can't give you a side by side comparison, but I am sure most who do own them will agree.  Just try to find a bad review of one.
 
Anyway, good luck. 
 
 
 
 
 
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Thanks for the input.  Now I just need the SS to go on sale.....something about the bargain demon in me...think my wife rubbed that off one me if I see someting half off on sale.....
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Originally posted by JLud JLud wrote:

Thanks for the input.  Now I just need the SS to go on sale.....something about the bargain demon in me...think my wife rubbed that off one me if I see someting half off on sale.....


Check to sample list. I have never seen a SS scope on sale unless it is on the sample list.
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Originally posted by JLud JLud wrote:

Thanks for the input.  Now I just need the SS to go on sale.....something about the bargain demon in me...think my wife rubbed that off one me if I see someting half off on sale.....
If you are a member of snipershide there is a discount they run for those members. 
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