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Sorry if this is a repeated question, I couldn't find the answer through the other posts though I probably just over looked it.

I received my SS 3-9 yesterday.  This is the first SS scope I have ever had let alone looked through so I know nothing about them.  Looking through the data on the SWFA sight on the scopes most of them say they have a rear focus but it does not say anything for the 3-9.

So my question is, is this scope a fixed focus similar to the ACOG's?  Or am I just a complete idiot and totally missed the writing on the wall?

Thanks for the help. 
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Cody, if you mean is there a parallax adjustment? Then there is none, but the diopter for focusing the reticle is the locking ring on the eyepiece.
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Too bad about that.  With the new reticle I would get one in a sec if I could focus it.  Double bonus for a side focus.
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Yes parallax is what I meant to say.  Sorry my brain isn't working today, it went on vacation without me.  I hope it picked someplace nice and warm with a great view. Cool

Ok so it is a fixed parallax scope than.  Given the quality of the glass on this I'm guessing I shouldn't have any problems with it until around 700yrds than.  Does that sound about right or is good for a longer or shorter distance?

Thank you for the response.
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Parallax is not as necessary on scopes under 10x.  Tons and tons of people use SS 3-9x scopes out to very long distances and say they are not seeing parallax errors.  
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Originally posted by Ben Diss Ben Diss wrote:

Too bad about that.  With the new reticle I would get one in a sec if I could focus it.  Double bonus for a side focus.
  You can focus the reticle so I hope you don't mean that. But for any scope 10X or under on the high end fixed parallax is not a big deal. I've shot targets side by side @ 600 yards with my fixed parallax NF 2.5-10X32 and my Premier 3-15X50 with adjustable parallax set to 10X and didn't see much difference in results. Groups were a little better with the latter but that's also because the 24" barrel under it gives the same load 75 more fps, which helps a bit with wind.

I never shot the SS 3-9 past 300 yards but certainly felt there were no issues with it out at least that far. Sometimes I find having to adjust parallax at all to be a pain even in a scope with enough mag where it will have some effect.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Parallax is not as necessary on scopes under 10x.  Tons and tons of people use SS 3-9x scopes out to very long distances and say they are not seeing parallax errors.  

Glad to hear that people are taking them out to long distances without having parallax issues.  I hope to have my receiver parts back in time to mount this and test it out this weekend.  Around my house I only have an opening to look about 90yrds and comparing it to my Shepherd 6-18 with both on 6x the SS is just a little brighter and clearer but when setting both on 9x there is a huge difference on the clarity.

I was surprised to see how much brighter and clear the SS is at 9x than the Shepherd.  This was very surprising to me since my shepherd was always a much crisper image than the Leupold Mk4's that I had and used.  The Shepherd wasn't as bright as the Leupold but had a much more crisp image.

I may have to mount this on my entry gun just to play with it before the weekend.
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Originally posted by Cody.e.Smith Cody.e.Smith wrote:


I may have to mount this on my entry gun just to play with it before the weekend.
if you do you won't want to take it offWink
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Cody.e.Smith Cody.e.Smith wrote:


I may have to mount this on my entry gun just to play with it before the weekend.
if you do you won't want to take it offWink

LOL Big Smile

My entry gun is only a 7" barrel SBR.  I think a 3-9 would be a little over kill for it but it would make for a funny picture.  Might have to through on the harris bi-pod, SS with sunshade, the beta mag, surefire M3, TLR-2, and a FastFire to take a photo and post it here and label it Ultimate Tacti-Cool.  Dirty Harry
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Don't for get to attach your blender as well, so you can make smoothies while you are out shooting.Bucky
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Oh yes yes!  Can't forget the blender.  
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Cody the glass on the SS is HD glass & that is the reason for the discrepency between the 2 scopes glass wise.
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I have tried about 5 times now to post a picture on here and I can't figure out what I am doing wrong.  Guess I will have to get some help from the girlfriend when she gets home.
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I don't think you get the ability to post pics until 50 posts... That's why there is a post count boost thread in the almost anything goes forum!Bucky
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Want adjustable parallax get the 10x HD it has the rear focus parallax asjustment.
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Seeing that there isn't a HD anywhere in the name of the SS6x42 I assume it doesn't have the high definition glass.  Is there a big difference between the clarity on the HD models and the none HD models?
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

I don't think you get the ability to post pics until 50 posts... That's why there is a post count boost thread in the almost anything goes forum!Bucky

Smile thank you for the tip!
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Originally posted by Cody.e.Smith Cody.e.Smith wrote:

Seeing that there isn't a HD anywhere in the name of the SS6x42 I assume it doesn't have the high definition glass.  Is there a big difference between the clarity on the HD models and the none HD models?
Yes, but the glass on the original SS"s is completely serviceable. I have a rear-focus 10x and the glass is really good considering the price point. Another thing you don't get with those scopes is mil adjustments. 1/4 M.O.A. adjustments only. 
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I don't mind the 1/4 MOA adjustments I'm used to those.  I figure that 6x would be a great addition to my .300 whisper if the glass was anywhere near as nice as the glass in the 3-9.  If not than I will just save up a few more penny's and get another 3-9.

What exactly do you mean by the glass is completely serviceable though?
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http://opticsthoughts.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68:10x42-riflescopes&catid=4:rifle-scope-reviews&Itemid=4
While it is not a review of the 6x42, it shares the same platform of the 10x being reviewed here. I am not a glass expert at all. So by completely serviceable, I mean that I have never missed a target because of the glass on my scope. Is there better? Sure, but it also cost more too. From what I have seen and read the 3-9 and the 10x H.D., are the best deals on high end glass going.
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

http://opticsthoughts.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68:10x42-riflescopes&catid=4:rifle-scope-reviews&Itemid=4
While it is not a review of the 6x42, it shares the same platform of the 10x being reviewed here. I am not a glass expert at all. So by completely serviceable, I mean that I have never missed a target because of the glass on my scope. Is there better? Sure, but it also cost more too. From what I have seen and read the 3-9 and the 10x H.D., are the best deals on high end glass going.

That is a great article.  Thank you for posting the link.  I like to see the comparison between the HD and the older style SS.  I would love to have them side by side to do a comparison myself.
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As far as parallax error, unless youre putting this scope on a rimfire shooting 50yds or less, i see no need for the parallax adjustment. Ive shot the ss 3-9 from 50yds (paper) out to 900yds (on full size silhouettes).
Im not an optics expert nor a great marksmen, but here is my $0.02 - I first had it on a 308 bolt gun and i never had any problems with parallax that i noticed and i cant say that i had any misses that i could blaim on the scope. It worked well for me.
I then stole it off my 308 and put it on my 22 for a rimfire competition i was getting ready for since i was lacking in scopes. At 50yds i started noticing a little bit of parallax error (the zero on my groups would move 0.2" or so depending on my cheek weld), but this wasnt surprising b/c the scope was not meant to be used as such.
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Thanks for your input lumberjack.  This rifle will rarely shoot under 100yrds and for the times that it does I have a red dot that is being mounted off to the side so the parallax adjustment wasn't really a concern, it was more of a question as to if this scope was fixed or had adjustment since I am not familiar with the SS line of scopes yet.

Key word being yet as after receiving this one and seeing the clarity of it I have every intention of getting more.

I truly appreciate everyone's input and thoughts.  Every little bit helps   
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You should try a SS 1-4 for your whisperWink

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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

You should try a SS 1-4 for your whisperWink


I have thought about that and it would be a perfect match with the mil reticle.  Unfortunately before I can bring myself to spend that much for glass for my whisper, I want to replace the glass on my .308 with the 5-20 first.

So I need to save up some more before I can do anything else for now.
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