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I had some limited range time with a friend who owns a donut version of the SS HD.  I saw very noticable issues with the image getting very blurry and distorted when set at 4x.  I you don't position your cheek weld just right, the reticle gets out of focus.  This happens if you slightly move your head  both laterally and vetically .  The fine focus setting appears to be good because the reticle looks crisp when things are just right.  But move your head ever so slightly and the image goes into the sh*tter.  Can anyone inform me better on how to adjust for this .  Is there a paralax setting and where is it ? 
 
I appreciate any info.
  
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What range are you seeing this problem.  I have on with the T reticle, and I have no issues with it at all.  The glass is about the best I have in a scope, and I never have a problem with the reticle or image being blury.
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Since this was your friends scope did you re-adjust the reticle focus to your eyes. Everyone will have a slightly different setting for proper focus between one to anothers eyes. If you did refocus on the reticle, did you do it on low power of high? Always adjust the reticle to your eyes by looking thru the scope adjust, look away to rest your eye then look thru, adjust and rest again repeat until the scopes reticle is in focus immediately upon looking into the scope.

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At what range were you shooting at? It sounds like the diopter adjustment could be out a bit, and the reason it looks good is your eye is bringing it focus as you concentrate on it. The diopter should be adjusted looking through the scope at a featureless background, a clear blue sky is the best. Turn the diopter all the way in, look through the scope,as you slowly turn the adjustment out. Be sure to only look through the scope for few seconds at a time, as your eye will try to focus the reticle automatically. After you get it close, rest your eye for a few minutes and check it again. As soon you bring the scope up the reticle should be clear. This should be done on 4x. If the problem still persists, contact SWFA, the parallax is out of adjustment.
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Thanks for replying back -- as for the settings I adjusted the focus to my eyes by setting the scope to 4x against a white target backer at 25 yards, the image was crisp and clear.  I did back away from the scope to allow my eyes to adjust. I then reaquired a cheek weld to take aim on a standard target now at 50 yards.  The problem is when I move my head -- there appears to be a very narrow viewing window of a clear reticle image.  If I slightly move my head up or down / left or right the reticle distorts badly. 
 
Conversely, I had my rifle along side of his.  Both AR15's.  My Trijicon TR21 (German reticle) had a very forgiving "viewing window" -- I believe its called "Eye Box" by other posts I read.  I could easily move my head while shouldering the gun and not see the cross hairs blur out at all.
 
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It sounds to me maybe the diopter was still out of adjustment a bit. Did the owner of scope have any problems, when the diopter was set for him?
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If it is a matter of paralax - is there a user adjustment or would it go back to SWFA ?
 
BTW --- the owner of the scope originally brought this problem to my attention .  He noticed it as he was using the scope for the first time.  I was several stalls over getting my rig zero'ed for a 3 gun match and I can hear him complaining that his eye's must be going bad because of the blurred reticle. 
 
So to walked over with my TR21 for comparison.  He wanted to compare using my gun.  He commented that my TR21 was very clear and easy to aquire a sight picture.  Thats when I decided to REALLY look at his issue.
 
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The parallax is fixed, so it would have to go back.
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So does it sound like a paralax problem?
 
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I still think maybe the scope wasn't focused correctly.  NOt saying you did it wrong maybe just not perfect.  A very seasoned member on here had the same issue as  you describe but  after he let his eyes rest and readjusted against a blue sky he didn't have the problem anymore.  PM CHeaptrick if you want to talk to him about it or maybe he will post on it.

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I have two 1-4xs and both of mine do this.  If I get off center on 4x to the point where I just start to see black on the one side of the scope, my reticle gets fuzzy.  If I turn it to 3x and below it does not do that.  Must just be a little bit more critical on 4x.  
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Checked my 1-4SS for this, never got a blurry reticle.

I would re-focus against the sky rather than against a target 25 yards away.

The scope does require a fairly precise head position at 4X, but I cannot get mine to go blurry.
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The eyepiece is not focused correctly.

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Focus,that solved my issue.  It was only a turn off, that made the difference from a slightly fuzzy to a very clear reticle when being on the edge of the image.  
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 Just received mine today and having the same problem. Only at 4X the reticle becomes blurry if you move your head slightly. Very narrow clear reticle range.
 I'll keep trying to find that magic spot. Never had a scope this touchy with the focus adjustment.

 Other than that, it's a great scope! Heavy for it's size and made in Japan not China.
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:



 There he is. Excellent

 You had a similar problem as mentioned in this thread?


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Originally posted by Scottyman Scottyman wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:



 There he is. Excellent

 You had a similar problem as mentioned in this thread?

Yes Sir, I did, but found it was operator error on my part. 
As stated, keep playing with the eye piece.  
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 I think I've found an acceptable focus.
 Love the scope.
 
 Happy to be the entertainment. Stick Horse
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Originally posted by Scottyman Scottyman wrote:

 I think I've found an acceptable focus.
 Love the scope.
 
 Happy to be the entertainment. Stick Horse

We are just being silly. Not directed at you, my friend. I saw beltfed's popcorn emoticon and wanted to post my latest download of the lovely blonde along with it. 

Yes, the scope is something else, isn't it? What mount are you using? 

   
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 I'm using the SWFA S.S.A.L.T. mount.

 Thinking of Cerakoting the scope and mount FDE to match my tan ACR.

  
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Originally posted by Scottyman Scottyman wrote:

 I'm using the SWFA S.S.A.L.T. mount.

 Thinking of Cerakoting the scope and mount FDE to match my tan ACR.

  

Excellent.

I insist you post pics of this rig ASAP! Wink
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