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Okay guys, I know this gets asked on an everyday basis, however without having any kind of equipment to measure Im at a loss.  I have searched and searched forums, web, etc.
I have called and talked to SWFA.  So I just need some help from everyone on this.

My rifle is a Rem 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD-completely stock, just got her.
Im limited on a budget, so trying to save costs for now.

Will be doing alot of paper punching at 100yrds.  Range limit where I shoot.
Have access to a 300yrd and possibly longer ranges but limited access.

So here is the queston:

Im set on getting the SS 10x42
I will go with a 0 moa, 1pc base.

However, I see alot of people using low rings, is there enough clearance?
I like my scopes low-will be using BC caps.

SWFA has SS packages but all there rings are med, I really dont want to go through the hassle returning rings because I ordered the wrong ones.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for your time-Mark 

For reference I am going for a build similar to this:


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I had a egw 0MOA base on a 700 SPS Tactical and a SS was on it with SS low rings and still had the ability to use my caps.  I think lows will work but be more specific if you can.  what base are you going to use?

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Well since Im on a budget, I was thinking of going with the EGW base and possibly the Burris xtreme tactical low rings
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that lows will work.
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I really appreciate the quick response, thank you!
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I have a 30 MOA seekins base and IOR lows on mine and have a huge barrel and there is still room even with butler creek caps on it.
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hello guys my name is Edmund. I was the engineer in the designing team of the tasco ss 10x42 we designed the scope with asia optical japan and it was and still distributed by SWFA and is the original and the only one there are other companies like BSA Bushnel that are marketing a Mil-Mil
Scope and my question is how can you divide the circumference of a turret with a value of 360 degrees into 6400 milliradians, from the engineering point of view it is impossible to create that type of accuracy without spending atleast 5000$ on just one turret. We have just been lying about it theyre just converting the english measuring system (inches) to the metric system radians and milliradians are used in artillery for long range target purpose where an angle of measure in radians can become exact in ranges above 5 miles. For the regular shooter that shoot 100 to 300 yards this irrelevant unless you are competing in the olympics and even then its still irrelevant.
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Originally posted by Erickt the red Erickt the red wrote:

hello guys my name is Edmund. I was the engineer in the designing team of the tasco ss 10x42 we designed the scope with asia optical japan and it was and still distributed by SWFA and is the original and the only one there are other companies like BSA Bushnel that are marketing a Mil-Mil
Scope and my question is how can you divide the circumference of a turret with a value of 360 degrees into 6400 milliradians, from the engineering point of view it is impossible to create that type of accuracy without spending atleast 5000$ on just one turret. We have just been lying about it theyre just converting the english measuring system (inches) to the metric system radians and milliradians are used in artillery for long range target purpose where an angle of measure in radians can become exact in ranges above 5 miles. For the regular shooter that shoot 100 to 300 yards this irrelevant unless you are competing in the olympics and even then its still irrelevant.

You've lost me there.  Why are you trying to divide the circumference of the turret into 6400 milliradians?  That makes no sense whatsoever.

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Don't know about all of that thinking Erick but if you are serious:
 
In a practical sense my 10HD does a remarkable job with a dot drill (thereby teaching me a useful skill) so whatever can't be done or adequately explained...works.
 
I was from the set it and forget it on turrets camp until I bought the SS HD.  I was always afraid they wouldn't track back and probably wouldn't with some or most of the scopes I used to own.
 
These optics can drain money like a real estate developer can drain a swamp.
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You are correct.

Must of the scopes do not have a positive tracking windage and elevation turrets, however

the SS10X42 it does, in simple words if you zero at 100 yards and you turn the turret to shoot

at 200 yards, if you count the clicks it will take you back to the original zero position.

I recommend to every shooter to use the lower rings as possible, because the closes the scope

is mounted to the barrel the less amount of adjusting movement is need and more precise

the shooting will be.

 

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Erickt I don't quite understand why you have to count your clicks back to Zero?Once I Zero out the scope I adjust the cap to the mark of Zero,therefore I just look at the ring where the Zero mark has been set & move to that spot!
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:


 Why are you trying to divide the circumference of the turret into 6400 milliradians?  That makes no sense whatsoever.

1/6400 radian = 1 milleme, standard military way to approx. milliradians (or more exactly replace)  so that it has many multiples of 2s and people can easily multiply / divide in their head.
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Thank you for welcome to OT.

You are correct in what you said. When zero at 100 yards and your target is a 200 yards, depending of the caliber used.  The point of impact will be “lower so in a quarter MOA turret you have to turn the

An elevation turret 8 clicks and in a 1/8 MOA turret 16 clicks to compensate for the bullet drop. In a scope with positive tracking to go back to Zero the way you mentioned. But the only for someone to

Know if any particular scope has the above mentioned feature is to Zero the scope and then adjust to a farther distance, counting the same amount of clicks that was adjust back it should take to the original zero position if it does not the scope does not have positive tracking and it have a variation between clicks or what is called a Play this is cause by using a cheap ball spring system instead of using a pin spring system. Also in some scopes when they use a brass components with aluminum parts it will cause the same effect because the brass will finish eating the aluminum and this will create also the same effect.

 

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