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I need some advice on what type of spotting scope to buy.  Specifically, I have a range that I just completed that reaches to 500 yards and need a spotting scope that will let me see the bullet impact points at that range.  I would like to be able to see .223 holes in addition to .308, .50, etc.  I don't need something that is "rugged"  as I won't be lugging the scope around.
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To see .223 holes at 500yds is going to take some pretty good glass. Heck, it will take that to see .30 cal. holes under ideal conditions.
I would suggest something in a Vortex 20-60x80 to start with.
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Can't really say what the budget is since I don't know what it will take to see what I need to see. I guess I would like to stay under 1k.
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Here is my top recommendation
 
I don't have one, but I do have a Pentax PF 80 with the 20-60 eyepiece. One of our members here also had the same scope and sold it to buy the Razor, and he did not regret buying the Razor and was VERY happy with it.
If you can afford saving a little extra, I don't think you would go wrong. Buy once, cry once.
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This is what I have
and seeing .30 cal. holes at 300yds is tough. Might work at 500 with shoot-n-see targets.
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Thanks for the info.  Vortex is a bit pricey (1.6k) but yeah you are probably right about buying the best.
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You get what you pay for in spotters.  Buy the best you can possibly afford even if you have to stretch the budget a bit.  BeltFed gives good advice here.  
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If your not in a rush wait for the new SWFA SS spotting scope due out?????????????
 
If your in a rush go to the SWFA Sample list,they have a couple of goodies @ very reasonable prices!
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Thanks!
I'll check it out.
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I use a Leica 77 APO Televid and seeing 50 holes at 1000 is difficult under the best conditions and at 600 yds under poor lighting close holes in the black can be tough to resolve.

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Really weird that you posted this. I borrowed a friends Leica televid today 20x60, 77.  I could see the 223 holes barely at 440 yards (didn't try at 500 - got chased off by thunderstorm) .40 holes were very obvious. Used plain white paper hanging on a RR tie wall.  Lighting was somewhat dark even though it was at 3 pm and I was shooting due north, because of the thunder clouds.
What does the APO mean?  Are you happy with Leica?
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APO = apochromatic: reduces color fringing. When looking through a non APO optic and examining the edges of an object you might see red,blue,green outlines making the object appear somewhat fuzzy and can be very pronounced under certain lighting conditions.

 

 

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Took the scope  (leica televid) out today at noon in high temp and humidity.  There were so many heat waves that I couldn't see anything at 440 yards, not even the .40 holes.  Totally different than yesterday. Doubt I could have seen a .50 hole either. 
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Yep bad atmospheric conditions you have a hard time seeing but when conditions are good what you can see is simply amazing.
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Kowa 883 with 20 - 60 zoom

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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Kowa 883 with 20 - 60 zoom

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As has been posted, sometimes magnification has its limits.  The Zen Ray ED 2 spotter is every bit as good as the Razor and is $1k.  The Theron MAG 82 is less than that and is so good you will have to see it for yourself.  Both will not be chased into hiding by even a Kowa.  Anyway I'd recommend one of those.  The Theron comes with a 25-75x zoom and a very nice, even excellent, fixed 30x WA eye piece. 
 
I posted a review of all three here a while back.  I have the ZEN ED 2 and have yet to feel that I have ever needed more. 
 


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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Kowa 883 with 20 - 60 zoom

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BeltFed, you are correct I should have been a little more humble. I do have a definite advantage as I'm the Kowa rep in NY and part of PA and I have a sample of every item that they make. I just joined the site recently because I'm an avid hunter and I don't have any intentions of rambling about the products that I sell. I also have no intentions to sell anything either. Thanks for the comeupence I deserved it.
By the way I'm going to a sales meeting next week and I'll be getting an adapter for the iPhone that will fit our bins & spotting scopes. At this point don't know any more than that.

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Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Originally posted by Peddler Peddler wrote:

Kowa 883 with 20 - 60 zoom

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BeltFed, you are correct I should have been a little more humble. I do have a definite advantage as I'm the Kowa rep in NY and part of PA and I have a sample of every item that they make. I just joined the site recently because I'm an avid hunter and I don't have any intentions of rambling about the products that I sell. I also have no intentions to sell anything either. Thanks for the comeupence I deserved it.
By the way I'm going to a sales meeting next week and I'll be getting an adapter for the iPhone that will fit our bins & spotting scopes. At this point don't know any more than that.

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I wouldn't think about asking you to break the rules ( well maybe I did for a secondDevil ), but I would love to get my eyeball behind a Kowa 883 with a 20-80 eyepiece. I just don't think I'm going to win the Power Ball.
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need some help with an old scope i got , its called pronimar ,they say its from the 60s
can anyone help ???
 
send me a private message with your email and i can send you pictures
 
any help will be great thank 
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What kind of help do you need justin?
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[QUOTE=justin AK 47] need some help with an old scope i got , its called pronimar ,they say its from the 60s
can anyone help ???
 
send me a private message with your email and i can send you pictures
 
any help will be great than

If it says Prominar it's a Kowa spotting scope. Kowa scopes were introduced in 1952 and they were the official scopes for shooting matches at the 1964 Olympic Games.A number of U.S.Armed Forces Sniper Teams use Kowa spotting Scopes.

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Peddler, remember you promised to keep me posted on that Iphone adaptor, right ? Big Smile
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