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 Has anyone had the opportunity to look thru both the Pentax PF80 and the Celestron Regal 80? What I can gather is that they are very close optically, with the Pentax having the edge on quality. But the Celestron is half the price of the Pentax. Both accept 1.25 eyepieces.
 I really would like to buy the Vortex razor. NO ONE has anything but praise for this scope. But as this is my first Spotting scope, I am not willing to spend 1600.00 dollars.
 I have shopped around a little bit for a used PF80, but it seems people that own them want to keep them.
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I sold a PF80 a few months back, you can find them from time to time, but they don't last long.

I have experience with all listed but the Celestron.

The Pentax is a great deal in a very good spotter.  I sold mine to move to the Razor - great decision.
I've run my Razor next to a Kowa 88-series, and the difference was minimal (other than price.)

On a fixed budget, get the Pentax; if you can spend a bit more, definitely get the Razor.  I can't speak to the Celestron.
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+1 on the Razor.  A heck of alot more scope than I need right now, but worth alot more than I paid for it.
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Originally posted by tompac tompac wrote:

 
 I really would like to buy the Vortex razor. NO ONE has anything but praise for this scope.
 
And for good reason.  It's a truly alpha class scope at a non-alpha price.  I've found it's usually best to just save up for what you really want and you'll come out ahead in the long run.  At least that's the way it works for me.  When I compromise based on price, I usually end up eventually buying the thing I really wanted later and selling the "compromise" gear for a significant loss since it didn't do the very thing I bought for very well anyway.  Then again, I'm a gear whore.
 
The Razor isn't cheap, but compared to the scopes it directly competes against, it's arguably the best deal going in premium scopes.  For roughly half the price of the "big 4" alpha class spotters, you get virtually no optical compromises.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by tompac tompac wrote:

 
 I really would like to buy the Vortex razor. NO ONE has anything but praise for this scope.
 
And for good reason.  It's a truly alpha class scope at a non-alpha price.  I've found it's usually best to just save up for what you really want and you'll come out ahead in the long run.  At least that's the way it works for me.  When I compromise based on price, I usually end up eventually buying the thing I really wanted later and selling the "compromise" gear for a significant loss since it didn't do the very thing I bought for very well anyway.  Then again, I'm a gear whore.
 
The Razor isn't cheap, but compared to the scopes it directly competes against, it's arguably the best deal going in premium scopes.  For roughly half the price of the "big 4" alpha class spotters, you get virtually no optical compromises.
 I like to buy quality. Two examples are my digital cammera and metal detector. In both cases I started cheap and once I fiqured out that I liked having a digital camera and a metal detector, THEN I bought a "alpha" camera and metal detector. While I think I will use my spotting scope a lot, I do not know that for sure. And I know from experience it is better to buy for 500 and sell for 300 than buy for 1600 and sell for 1200.
 I read on another forum that the Pentax and the Regal are optically simular. One costs a lot less and the other is rated as higher quality build. Everyone who has looked thru the Regal has made the comment that optically it is as good or better than scopes that cost much more. Much in the same way that the Razor compares favorably to the Kowas, Zeiss and swars. Excellant value for the money. If I enjoy useing a spotting scope(and I think I will), I will not have a problem selling the Celestron and upgrading to a "alpha". Also am curious as to how good the new Zen Ray spotter is going to be. I know that many consider their binoculars to be as good optically as  some of the alphas.
 
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