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On www.24hourcampfire.com and www.accuratereloading.com
there is a thread in the optics forum called "scope test"
It is a very good test done with scientific equipment in sweden.go check the thread out and see if you can get chris to cut and paste the results here.
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 Scope name
B resolution (max 10)
C colour & contrast (max 10)
D anti-reflex (max 5+5)
E light transmission (max 10)
F twilight performance (max 10)
G overall test result (including all test results, not just the ones I've printed. Max possible 78)

Remember, this is a lab test, not some testers subjective opinion.

BSA Big cat 3,5-10x: B3 C3 D5 E6 F3 G44
BURRIS FULLFIELD II 3,5-10X: B10 C7 D6 E9 F7 G58
DOCTER 3-12X: B7 C8 D8 E8 F7 G60
KAHLES CB 3-12: B6 C8 D8 E9 F8 G62
LEUPOLD VXIII 3,5-10X:B7 C7 D8 E8 F6 G60
MEOPTA ARTEMIS 3000 3-12X: B7 C7 D7 E7 F7 G57
MEOPTA ARTEMIS 2000 3-12X: B6 C7 D7 E7 F6 G55
MICRO DOT 2,3-10X: B7 C6 D7 E8 F7 G58
NICKEL GERHARDT 3-12X: B9 C8 D8 E9 F9 G66
NIGHTFORCE NP1 3,5-15X: B9 C6 D9 E8 F7 G60
OXO ONTARIO 3-9X: B3 C3 D4 E6 F2 G39
PECAR 4-10X: B5 C6 D6 E8 F5 G46
SCHMIDT UND BENDER ZENITH 2,5-10X: B7 C8 D9 E9 F9 G65
SCHMIDT UND BENDER 2,5-10X: B9 C8 D8 E9 F9 G66
SHIRSTONE GOLD 4-12X: B5 C5 D5 E7 F5 G47
SWAROVSKI HABICT 3-12X: B9 C9 D8 E9 F10 G68
TASCO TITAN 3-12X: B5 C6 D6 E7 F4 G49
TRIJICON ACCUPOINT 2,5-10X: B8 C6 D8 E9 F8 G64
ZEISS DIAVARI Z T 3-12X: B10 C10 D10 E9 F10 G72
ZEISS VARIPOINT V 3-12X: B9 C10 D10 E9 F9 G70
ZEISS DIAVARI V 3-12X: B10 C10 D10 E9 F10 G73
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Good test. I would have liked to see more brand comparisons, but I realize you can only have so many.

Nikon Monarch, Conquest, 4200, etc., would have been nice to compare. Kudos to the Zeiss Diavari V!! 

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I would have like to see a little bit more of an apples to apples comparison.  Instead of a FFII, how about a top of the line Burris.  How about everything being the same power range and objective size.

 

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So what this says is that a $200 Burris Fullfield 2 is within 15 points of a $1800 30mm 3-12x56 Ziess Diavari?  What does that Burris black diamond do on this scale?
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how the hell did BSA get on that list??? whats a OXO, and a shirstone???? heard of OKO, but never OXO, until any info, i think i will be safe assuming chinese crap.

 

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I'm with ranburr on this one. They left out some very good glass that is popular stateside!!!! No mention of durability? Sounds like a good test of spotting scopes and binoculars!!!!
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Swedish magazine Vapentidningen no 6/2004 has printed a consumer lab test for riflescopes suitable for hunting at dusk/dawn.

Their conclusion is that the German/Austrian scopes are by far the best, but the leap from the cheaper US scopes are smaller today than it was at the last test 7 years ago.

 

Aerotech Telub lab did the scientific testing using spektrofotometers, broad spectral lamps and kolliminators.

 

The scopes were tested for field of sight, eye relief, "tube effect", ergonomy, click adjustment accuracy, impact change with change of magnification, sharpness and contrast, light transmission, reflexes, twilight performance.

 

Here's a bit more on the test. unfortunately the scope selection was somewhat limited. And please not that the test was geared towards scopes for post hunting in dark autumn evenings. The test and description of the test criterias runs over 10 typed pages, so there’s a bit too much work to translate all of that and post them on this forum However, I will post the scoring scales.


Field of view at 100m
0-5m 0 points
5-6m 1 point
6-7m 2 points
7m+ 3 points

Eye relief
0-6cm 0 points
6-8cm 1 point
8-10 2 points
10+ 3 points

Tube effect
Sight picture severely disturbed by tube effect at all magnifications: 0 points
Sight picture severely disturbed at lowest magnification, disturbed at highest: 1 point
Sight picture disturbed at all magnifications: 2 points
Sight picture disturbed only at lowest magnification: 3 points
Sight picture not disturbed: 4 points

Ergonomy
Magnification ring turns smooth and even: 1 point
Possible to read magnification marking in the dark: 1 point
Quick and smooth focusing: 1 point
Possible to click scope without tools: 1 point
Click adjustment easy to feel: 1 point
Good markings on all adjustments: 1 point
Indication of scope center: 1 point

Sight adjustment
Click adjustment deviation in percent
100-50% 0 points
50-20% 1 point
20-5% 2 points
5-1% 3 points
0% 4 points

Adjustment range at 100m
0-50cm 0 points
50-100cm 1 point
100-200cm 2 points
200-300cm 3 points
300cm+ 4 points

Change of impact with magnification at 100m
5cm+ 0 points
5-1cm 1 point
1cm- 2points
Nil 3points

Resolution and contrast
Field testing, can/cannot see various targets, details and colors under equal conditions and settings
Resolution 0-10 points
Contrast 0-10 points

Anti reflex
Under equal conditions and settings with light source facing the objective

Lenses
Not able to see through scope: 0 points
Sight picture is white, difficult to aim: 1 point
Sight picture is white, but aiming possible: 2 points
Sight picture a little white: 3 points
Sight picture good, but without contrast or color: 4 points
Sight picture not affected: 5 points

Reticle
Not able to use the reticule: 0 points
Severe shadows and reflexes on it: 1 point
Shadows and reflexes on it: 2 points
A little shiny: 3 points
Sharp but mis-colored: 4 points
Sharp and black: 5 points

Light transmission at 500-550 nm (twilight light)
Please note that scopes can transmit other wavelength light better

0-10% 0 points
10-30% 1 point
30-40% 2 points
40-50% 3 points
50-60% 4 points
60-70% 5 points
70-80% 6 points
80-85% 7 points
85-90% 8 points
90-95% 9 points
95-100% 10 points

Twilight performance
Light were progressively reduced and scopes where excluded when it was no longer possible to determine target/crosshairs. Lighted reticules were not used. Scopes where used at all magnifications. Scopes where scored 0 to 10 points according to how little light it was possible to use it in.

 

A short summary of the results below.

Scope name

B resolution (max 10)

C color & contrast (max 10)

D anti-reflex (max 5+5)

E light transmission (max 10)

F twilight performance (max 10)

G overall test result (including all test results, not just the ones I've printed. Max possible 78)

 

OXO ONTARIO 3-9X: B3 C3 D4 E6 F2 G39

 

BSA Big cat 3,5-10x: B3 C3 D5 E6 F3 G44

 

PECAR 4-10X: B5 C6 D6 E8 F5 G46

 

SHIRSTONE GOLD 4-12X: B5 C5 D5 E7 F5 G47

 

TASCO TITAN 3-12X: B5 C6 D6 E7 F4 G49

 

MEOPTA ARTEMIS 2000 3-12X: B6 C7 D7 E7 F6 G55

 

MEOPTA ARTEMIS 3000 3-12X: B7 C7 D7 E7 F7 G57

 

BURRIS FULLFIELD II 3,5-10X: B10 C7 D6 E9 F7 G58

 

MICRO DOT 2,3-10X: B7 C6 D7 E8 F7 G58

 

DOCTER 3-12X: B7 C8 D8 E8 F7 G60

 

NIGHTFORCE NP1 3,5-15X: B9 C6 D9 E8 F7 G60

 

LEUPOLD VXIII 3,5-10X:B7 C7 D8 E8 F6 G60

 

KAHLES CB 3-12: B6 C8 D8 E9 F8 G62

 

TRIJICON ACCUPOINT 2,5-10X: B8 C6 D8 E9 F8 G64

 

SCHMIDT and BENDER ZENITH 2,5-10X: B7 C8 D9 E9 F9 G65

 

SCHMIDT and BENDER 2,5-10X: B9 C8 D8 E9 F9 G66

 

NICKEL GERHARDT 3-12X: B9 C8 D8 E9 F9 G66

 

SWAROVSKI HABICT 3-12X: B9 C9 D8 E9 F10 G68

 

ZEISS VARIPOINT V 3-12X: B9 C10 D10 E9 F9 G70

 

ZEISS DIAVARI Z T 3-12X: B10 C10 D10 E9 F10 G72

 

ZEISS DIAVARI V 3-12X: B10 C10 D10 E9 F10 G73

 

All of this was copied and pasted from a thread on Hunt Chat at SAKO75's request.  Take the time to read some of the post over there too, as they make some valid points. Scope Lab Test...post on HuntChat.com

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