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I noticed these on closeout and my wife needs a pair for hunting in low light (first/last light and full moon) and wondered how these would compare to Nikon Prostaff 5?

Not sure how long she will hang with hunting so I'm being cheap :)

Are there others better that I should consider for low light hunting?

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Since a healthy eye pupil is 7 and 8x42 is around 5.5, maybe I should be thinking about max light.

Either way, need your help since I'm still behind in bino technology.

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I purchased one of these, intended as a truck bino. I wanted something cheap but sturdy, and the Sightron fits this need extremely well. However, it is not very bright at all. If I had paid normal retail, I would have been extremely disappointed. I find that it is no brighter or sharper than my SII 8x30 Blue Sky (another set purchased to keep in a vehicle), and it has a smaller field of view than the B.S. as well. At normal prices, the B.S. is a much better buy, but at this time it does cost a bit more than the SIII.

If you want something that is both cheap and bright, then you should be looking at porros, especially the Olympus EXPS1 8x42. These can be had for around $100-$120. They are substantially sharper and brighter than the SIII (or B.S.), and they also have a much wider field of view as well. In fact, they outperform many bins that cost more than twice as much. It is however about four oz. heavier than the SIII. Also look at the Vortex Raptor 6.5x30. It is an excellent and bright bino for around $120. The 6.5 power is easy to hold steady by just about anyone. They are also very small and lightweight, so I'm sure your wife will like to carry these. In fact, if your wife is not used to using binoculars, these would be my highest recommendation. My wife's favorite bins by far are the Leupold Yosemite 6x30, which is a near-twin to the Raptor.

Also look at the Nikon Aculon 8x42, which seems to be the replacement for the old Action line. The old Action was decently bright, and I'm sure the newly-designed Aculon will be just as bright, if not brighter. These can be found under $90. They also make a 7x35 which should be decently bright, and a 7x50, which should be really bright (but larger in size).

Lastly, look at the Zen Ray 8x42 Vista. I've not looked through one, but the ZR's tend to provide a great amount of performance for the dollar spent. These will also have a wider field of view than the SIII.
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Thanks for the input,

found a video by Vortex on youtube that explains roof vs porro prism costs differences.



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So if you have up 200 to spend which would you buy for what I described ?

Here what I will have her look at thus far:

Prostaff 7 8x42
Yosemite 6x30
Vista 8x42

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Originally posted by EAGLE EAGLE wrote:

So if you have up 200 to spend which would you buy for what I described ?

Here what I will have her look at thus far:

Prostaff 7 8x42
Yosemite 6x30
Vista 8x42

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I was not impressed with the Prostaff, so I would immediately remove that one from consideration. Between the other two, I would pick the Vista is she is used to glassing, or the Yosemite if she is a newbie. Actually, if she is a newbie, I would go for the Vortex Raptor 6.5x., but it's really a toss-up between these two.

On the other hand, since you have increased your apparent budget by about $70, you open up a great range of new possibilities. I would recommend the Bushnell Ultra Legend HD 8x36, which you can get under $200 if you shop around. These are among the brightest and sharpest you can get for around $200.   You could also get the 8x42 version for a bit over $200 too, if you really think you need the bigger aperture.

The Bushnell Excursion 8x42 w/bak-4 and phase coatings should be bright enough for you, as would the Alpen wings 8x42. Also, the Sightron SII Blue Sky 8x30 is one of the better buys in the under $200 range. You might not think that 30mm will be bright enough, but I think that it will be fine. There is a 34 page thread about this over at the birdforum.net site (a lot of the pages are thread drift).

But definitely look at the Bushnell 8x36 Ultra HD. It is the one I would get if I were in your situation....
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One other thing to mention. If you could cough up another ten bucks, you can get the Bresser Everest 8x42 if you shop around. If you really think you need 42mm glass, it would be tied with the Bushnell as a best buy in this price range. You can read a lot about it at the birdforum.net site.....
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In the gun and scope world China is not well thought of or made.

However, It seems that China has cornered alot of the Binocular world.

Anyway, How much money do I need to spend to get a Japan or German made optic (glass)?

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Originally posted by EAGLE EAGLE wrote:

In the gun and scope world China is not well thought of or made.

However, It seems that China has cornered alot of the Binocular world.

Anyway, How much money do I need to spend to get a Japan or German made optic (glass)?

Eagle


Actually, people who are knowledgeable in the gun and scope world know a lot more than just guns and scopes, and they know that Chinese glass can range from truly horrible, to world-class. In fact, some German and Japanese brands get their glass from China. Zeiss is a good example of this. If you are knowledgeable of guns and scopes, you will have heard of Zeiss. People in the gun and scope world who still disparage Chinese glass just because it's Chinese suffer from outdated and uninformed group-think.

As for cost - go to the top of the page and click on the SWFA link. That site lists prices, so you can find out that answer for yourself.
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My focus was not just on glass, but over-all quality.

There are so many poor made products coming out of China that it's hard to trust most of thier products!

Another thing about China is they also steal a lot of good ideas and reproduce them under a different label which is another downside and why it's hard to trust in them.

Of coarse, I used the word cheap and that opened the door so my bad.

Not wanting to get into a debate, so I understand that you listed what you consider (possibly by experence or knowledge) to be the best bang for the price and I thank you.

Eagle

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