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I used to own a P226 full-size DAK model in .40, was wanting to buy another .40 but have narrowed it down to these two, around $500 for both. I will obviously be a little partial to the Sig because it was so well built, and had a great feel to it, but obviouly a P226 isn't exactly carry-friendly for concealed. Any recommendations?
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One bonus to the XDM .40 is that you can fit a 9mm barrel to it and use the same gun for practice at a significant price reduction.  I don't think the match barrel is as accurate as they claim, but not too bad, and the match trigger is ok.  I like my XD service 9mm for carry, but don't think you can go wrong with the SIG.
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Those are great pistols, but I would recommend considering a Glock 23.

Of your choices, I like the Springfield.
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I can't knock Glocks, but there is something about them that turns me away from them, maybe because they are so popular, or everyone I know has one. Which means they are good pistols,  just like the feel of the Sig, and the looks of the XD's. I get plenty of practice at work with shooting the M9 Beretta, so I like being able to stray away from military weapons off duty. The XD has been on my mind alot, but its almost $100 more than the Sig.
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......but those prices are at Cabela's, because Quantico Tactical doesn't show prices online. I'm really leaning toward the XD, like the Colliseum or the tower of Piza.
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I was at the Sig forum last night reading that some folks over there are not real crazy about the Sig 250 line, check it out at http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/430601935
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im getting an xdm soon i hope, in .45acp. i cant handle a glock, it doesnt fit my hand well at all.
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I dont' think the 250 was Sigs greatest ideal.  I would look for a factory refurb Sig like you want.  I carried a sig 229 in 40 for a long time but have started carrying a CZ P07 in 9mm and absolutley love it.  It is at least if not more accurate than any other handgun I have and is very lightweight.  It can be configured with a decock lever or a cocked and locked safety, both included.  The age ole 9mm isn't enough for carry is long since been debunked.  With the advances of modern ammo and all a 9mm will certainly stop what you hit with a well placed shot.  Plus with the 9mm i can carry more rounds in the gun and not have to worry with an extra clip.
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Went through the same thing a while back. Ended up getting the SIG P250 I love mine I haven't had one single problem. With that being said I still want an XDM 40 also.
 
Here is a link to my thread maybe some of that stuff can help you.
 
 
 
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Of those two choice's, I'd have to give the nod to the xdm.

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The trigger on the Sig is Wunderbar.   It is like a GREAT PPC match pistol.  You can hit better and faster with the Sig.
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I find that the Glock 23,22,35 carry very nicely concealed. The Glock 21SF (.45acp)feels too thick as does the Glock 30 (.45acp) In Sig the P229 seems to carry well and the P229 is stainless slide with dark finish over an alloy frame so a nice carry gun. The glock Tennifer finish is excellent rust protection and I have seen it put up with lots of abuse. The H&K is probably the best built of all of the group.  The Springfield XD family of guns has made a lot of friends due to high reliability and its .45 having a grip size more suited to most hands.  I am less than pleased with actual bullet performance on a large deer with 40 S&W Winchester Ranger 180 gr ammo - performance sucked.  Winchester silvertip 155 gr ammo is a must in 40 S&W.   .45acp is truely a better choice.  There is also a reason that 1911 style guns remain quite popular even next to these fine pistols as they fit the hand quite nicely and they carry low and easily concealed and when used .45acp is a superior cartridge.  I usually carry a Glock 35 or a Kimber SIS Govt 1911. I have shot the XD in.45acp and the grip feels a little odd to me it seemed quit long and had an odd feel which one could probably adjust to.  The Glock feels quite natural after using it on duty for many years and I have never seen a finish hold up like it does.  I may switch over to the Glock 21SF though due to bullet performance, and I would highly recommend the Sig P220 also as it feels as good as any pistol I have carried.  The first two or three rounds is what makes the difference most of the time anyway. The 1911 guns are an expert only gun and they are more suited to actually engaging in a firefight than they are to drawing down on bad guys to obtain compliance so its less risky to use a double action or striker style pistol if you need to back off of the shot.
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Glock pistols have a lot of good points, but they also have a lot of bad points. 
 
The good points made it our choice for a home defense gun.  Think high-capacity, powerful ammo, and a safe trigger that makes the gun go "bang" without requiring you to manipulate a bunch of levers and switches to make it happen.  Near indestructability is also a virtue.  (We did add TruGlo tritium night sights.)  However, the bad points keep me from using it as either a primary carry gun or a target gun.
 
Most Glock pistols are essentially 2-handed guns for anyone with medium-to-small hands.   In a real-life fight for your life, you may not have two free hands.  You may be using one hand to fend off bad guys.
 
The unnecesssary swell at the bottom of the backstrap is the culprit.  This makes it point high.  It also moves your hand out of position for one-handed shooting.  (Again, this is for people with medium-to-small hands.  Mine are medium.)  The new series pistols with different backstraps didn't really help much with this problem.  Glock is pretty darned slow about getting the message on this.  One answer is to spend big bucks on a grip reduction, but this shouldn't be necessary.  This problem was discovered and worked out long ago on 1911 backstraps.   
 
The Glock pistols (at least in .40 caliber) don't lend themselves well to reloading.  Also, the Glock trigger is pretty sad when compared to really good triggers on other pistols and revolvers.  (Yes, I had the lighter trigger installed.)  These two factors keep me from using it as a regular target pistol at the range, which is unfortunate.
 
Glock pistols represented a revolutionary change when they were first introduced.  Unfortunately, they have been self-satisfied and sitting on their (laurels?) for far too long.  As a result, the Glock should be considered a work-in-process for now.  Too bad, really.  Maybe when the company is inherited by the next generation in a few decades, they may try to make a good pistol great.  (It took quite a while with the Model 1911.) 
 
 
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There are two kind of glock people, those who love them, and those who hate them. Rarely you see someone who isn't on one side of the other.  That said the OP isn't talking about a glock and has stated he doesn't want one.  
This is between the SIg 250 and Springfield xdm
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The general consensus is Sigs have been taking a slow turn downward in terms of quality amongst active pistol shooters, especially the 250 line. All i ever hear is if you own a German made Sig it's overall a better pistol than the ones made up in New Hampshire and i HATE hearing that.

I love the Sigs that i've handled and they are still in the top tier but lately the overall feeling toward them is waning a bit. Are they $300 better than some of the other pistols like the ones mentioned? Same as H&K imo. Great pistols but they are gouging the consumer based on the name more than anything.

I personally LOVE the XDM line of pistols. I don't know if there is an ergonomically better polymer gun out there right now. Again, it's all subjective but it handles better than a glock (by a mile), or M&P. It's rock solid reliable and comes in a ton of varieties. The only knock i have is the grip safety but again, it doesn't affect the feel or operation of the pistol and that's what's important.  
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A Brand New Springfield Armory XDM 3.8 .40 S&W.
 
For $550 before taxes, I got $140 savings off list price for being military. I'm very happy with it, it feels great, looks great, still a little tight as any new pistol would be (slide). The wife even likes it and can hold it just fine. I am thoroughly happy, and thank you guys for the imput!
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Nice...been thinking hard about the 3.8 also, held one at Sportsmans and it felt good....let me know How it does.
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Will do when I get some range time, which there is no telling when that will be because of a cross country move in a week.

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good looking gun, congrats

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I have two of the XDm .40s.  I like them a lot.  The one I probably have 4000+ rounds out of it and it has not had a single stoppage yet.  Other than ones I set up to practice clearences that is.  Bucky

I wish the triggers did not have as much slop after reset, but other than that I think they are excellent.

They are not quite a 1911, but a fine pistol none the less.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I have two of the XDm .40s.  I like them a lot.  The one I probably have 4000+ rounds out of it and it has not had a single stoppage yet.  Other than ones I set up to practice clearences that is.  Bucky

I wish the triggers did not have as much slop after reset, but other than that I think they are excellent.

They are not quite a 1911, but a fine pistol none the less.


Will be getting one in 3.8 barrel length very soon. Put it off to get my wife her first pistol for an x-mas present. I do agree the trigger could be better. My dad's glock 23 trigger on his generation 4 is shorter and crisper. But that's about the only thing i'll give higher marks to the glock.
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I ran Glocks for a couple years, but just did not ever like the grip angle.  Fantastic pistols, just could not get over that.  XDs fit a lot better.  
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As I mentioned earlier I have carried a Glock 23 for many years and shoot it well but I have to admit that the Glock technology is 1980's. Some of the newer generation guns that I see in range/competition are becoming more attractive to me.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I wish the triggers did not have as much slop after reset, but other than that I think they are excellent.

They are not quite a 1911, but a fine pistol none the less.


I have talked with some people who have had their XDM's triggers up graded with parts from Powder River Precision and they are very impressed with the results. Might be worth checking into them.
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