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I thought it was the NBA players smokin' KGB??
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

its Labrador man!!
 
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lots of good stuff here, but I couldn't read all the stuff in those "long" posts!  Big Smile   I have kind of changed my mind on this subject several times.  Sometimes I think yes they should be allowed in and sometimes I think No they shouldn't.  The Hall is supposed to be about how good you were compared to your peers I think.  So, in the end, they should be in!  Baseball has changed a lot since the time of Ruth and Mickey.  The pitching is much much better for one thing.  In those days, a pitcher pitched complete games all the time.  In so doing, they had to "save" something for the last few innings.  No pitcher now days can afford to "save" anything for later innings.  They give everything they've got every pitch.  So to think Babe, Mickey would have the same success today they had back then - doing things they way they did back then, is pretty silly.  So comparing these recent players to those guys is moot.  You compare them to the guys they played against!
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You got a point their Tip, there was not really a bullpen back in the days.
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

lots of good stuff here, but I couldn't read all the stuff in those "long" posts!  Big Smile   I have kind of changed my mind on this subject several times.  Sometimes I think yes they should be allowed in and sometimes I think No they shouldn't.  The Hall is supposed to be about how good you were compared to your peers I think.  So, in the end, they should be in!  Baseball has changed a lot since the time of Ruth and Mickey.  The pitching is much much better for one thing.  In those days, a pitcher pitched complete games all the time.  In so doing, they had to "save" something for the last few innings.  No pitcher now days can afford to "save" anything for later innings.  They give everything they've got every pitch.  So to think Babe, Mickey would have the same success today they had back then - doing things they way they did back then, is pretty silly.  So comparing these recent players to those guys is moot.  You compare them to the guys they played against!


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I hope some/many/ most of you just saw John Stossel/20-20 report on steroid use.  It virtually restated word for word everything I had to say on steroid use.  THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that steroid use has any negative effects... unless, of course, steroids are abused.  They even talked about the negative effects of over-the-counter drugs AND the ethics.  If you didn't see it, you should.
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With all due respect to everybody elses opinions, the answer is an absolute NO.  If you are found to have used performance inhancing drugs than you don't deserve to be in the HOF.   You cheated and acquire records and stats that you would not have acquired have you not used the drugs.  I am a San Francisco Bay Area guy and I vote No to Bonds, No to McGuire, No to Clements, No to Rodriguez, and No to all the others. 
 
Play the game clean and play the game hard and those who deserve to make the HOF will get there.
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