I have owned a Swaro PV 3-12X50, Zeiss Diavari 3-9x42, and a Kahles Helia C 3-12X56.
I currently have a very bright set of Zeiss Dialyt 7x42 bino's and Leica Ultravid 10x42 binos. I sold all of the above scopes and now have mostly Conquests, a couple of 4200's, and a 6500. I also recently sold a rifle with a Weaver Classic Extreme that was just as good.
Like everyone has said (and I have been looking at alpha class scopes again for some reason
), during most legal hunting light the scopes I have had recently have been all I needed. Actually they are fine a good bit after legal shooting light. When most people are loading up and driving out of the woods, I can still sit for 20-30 minutes if I wanted too
. My binoculars will tell me eveything I need to know about what I want to shoot if I wanted to
and my scope is just the tool I need for the rifle to do it's job. Which all of the scopes I have mentioned will do that for me, just fine.
I am not advocating doing anything illegal. But I really don't see where alpha class scopes are really needed unless you are hunting way before or after dark. And "yes" you can make out deer in very very very dark fields with alpha class scopes way when you shouldn't be out there, but even then, I can't judge rack size or how many points, etc. Might not be able to tell bucks from doe's even. Main reason I sold mine and upgraded rifles.
Some people make you feel like a 56mm Zeiss Diavari is like looking through night vision or something and the truth is ..........it's still dark. You may be able to make things out you would never see with a Conquest or 6500, but it's still freakin dark. That alpha glass is nice though and has great resolution and all kinds of minor things that add up "if"you can afford it.But I would get killer binoculars first and then move on to a high end scope if you feel like you need it.
I am about to put together another rifle and going through all of these thoughts again, but will probably put on of my 4200's on it and be done with it !! My binoculars are as good in low light as anything I have looked through and I still can't tell a whole lot about a deer after dark 30.
There are things like: It is legal to hunt over corn in SC. When I get in the stand sometimes I can make out corn and tell if any is still out there with my Bino's but my scopes are barely visible. I can even see the yellow color of the corn with my bino's which something none of my scopes have been able to do. My alpha class scopes would have probably been close to my bino's(the Kahles definately was as far as clarity in the dark). But like I said..........might be way before daylight and I am just sitting waiting. By the time the sun starts easing up and I can start seeing across a field at all with my naked eye.........any of the scopes I have mentioned will work fine.
Another thing........my Dad bought a pair of Bushnell legend 10x42 bino's last year. We hunted together one evening and started comparing bino's at dark. His were as bright as my Leica's. They just looked hazey looking and I could see the whole field and a deer if it walked out but it was just not as sharp and clear as mine. I could still see individual leaves on trees and his was more of just a bunch of leaves. He said he would never pay the kind of money I did for bino's. And I was kind of like, well, glad I had extra that year but if things were tougher I could get by fine with his bino's !
Edited by cbm - December/07/2011 at 14:54