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I have searched and read the forums (wow, alot of good information for the neophyte) but I have

some questions that I don't think have been posed.  Some background information:  I have a very

limited budget.  I have some hand-me-down firearms from my father and my father-in-law.  I'd

like to set them up with some optics so I can practice at my local municiple range and get

"decent" at firing at both the 50yd and 100yd ranges.  Right now, this is what I have:

 

Firearm 1) Ruger 10/22 from 1967, old redfield 4x scope thats worthless.

Firearm 2) Marlin 1894C .357 18.5" barrel, iron sites only.

 

For the ruger, I think I would really like a 3-9 variable scope that is mounted with some

see through rings so I can practice with the iron sites at 50yds. (My contact lenses are

-1.0 and -2.0, and I still have trouble discenring the "inner rings" of a target unaided.)

For the Marlin, I would like to be able to share scopes if the overall cost is comparable

to buying 2 "cheaper" scopes.  I don't mind having only 1 "decent" scope right now.

 

Looking at both the riflescopes and samplelist websites, I see a few "oppurtunities" in

my <$100 range:

 

Stock # Product  Picture Description    Mfg. Retail  SWFA Price
5225    Tasco    See-thru mount 10/22's.  $30.00        $9.95
3345    Tasco    3-9x40 WC & 8x21 Bino   $250.00   $49.95
3704    BSA      3-10x44 CatsEye Illum   $250.00     $69.95
1033    Simmons  4x32 .22 Mag Rifle         & amp; nbsp;            $29.95  
762239  Bushnell 3-9x32 .22 Rimfire          ; ;           ; ;     $37.95

  
I have read alot on this board about BSA and TASCO being "cheap" scopes, but is

the Bushnell or Simmons ones really that much better? I really like the idea

of grabbing a set of "free" binoculars on the tasco deal as well.  I live under an hour

from the brick and mortar location for Riflescopes, so I am planning on eventually

driving down to make my purchases, but wanted to see if anyone had constructive

advice. 

 

One final piece of information:  I will be using the marlin for hog hunting, and the ruger for

general riflemanship(?) skills - plinking, etc.

 

EDIT: The MD416X40IR BSA 4-16x40 Mil-Dot Riflescope $89.95 looks like a pretty awesome

scope too in my price range, but is it overkill or is it what I really need?



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Originally posted by silver silver wrote:

Weaver K-2.5?

 

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/849413/weaver_2.5x20_cla ssic_k2.5_series_rifle_scope.htm

I don't think this one will work for me because the 2.5x fixed magnification is not

enough for my eyesite to provide "real magnification" for the 100yd target since I

have a hard enough time bare-eying the 50yd target.  Also, the $120 is a bit above

my price point.  The Weaver K2.5 also provides a Twilight value of only 7.07, while the simmons 4x32 .22 scope Twilight is 11.31 for 90 bucks less

 

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In the price range you are talking, good luck.  My buddy had the Simmons recticle break on the third shot from his Super Blackhawk.  I had the recticle come loose on a better Tasco than you are looking at, just from setting the back of the car.  In your price range think simple, no bells and whistles, and try for the best quality you can get.  It is not at question of if it will break, but what you are doing at the time.  For me, dealing with a hog in the brush, ain't when I want things to go bad.  YMMV
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Just to put this in a little better prospective a Tiffen (mid-range) photo filter, one peice of coated glass, is about ten dollars. Now, add back glass, a tube, some mirrors ect. ect. and labor...

 

  

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Originally posted by silver silver wrote:

In the price range you are talking, good luck.  My buddy had the Simmons recticle break on the third shot from his Super Blackhawk.  I had the recticle come loose on a better Tasco than you are looking at, just from setting the back of the car.  In your price range think simple, no bells and whistles, and try for the best quality you can get.  It is not at question of if it will break, but what you are doing at the time.  For me, dealing with a hog in the brush, ain't when I want things to go bad.  YMMV

 

While both of those situations do indeed SUCK with a capital S, aren't both covered under the manufacter's 1 year warranty?  I stopped by wallyworld on the way home and looked at the BSA scopes there, and yes, Id like to get something better than what they had.  I keep coming back to the MSRP on the tasco world class line though.  Can

I safely assume its going to last longer than the .22 caliber scopes?

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 My tasco was out of warrenty.  Add the cost of Shipping (think percentage of scope cost for shipping) and in my friends case six months, for the Simmons.  Now, when a hog is tryin' to crawl up your pant leg, do you want to get into warrenty issues?

 

 

It was pointed out to me sometime ago that all a warrenty is, is an extra charge by the maker above the current cost and mark up of the item for the cost of sending you an other like item.  based on the probablity they will have to do so.  In english, I'll charge you twice and pocket the differance if I don't have to do a replacement.   

 

Rather than The mart, think about the SWFA sample list or used items. 

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silver,

 

Thanks for you continued input.  Have no fear, I really want to patronize riflescopes.com. 

I live in Garland TX, and Red Oak is only maybe 45 minutes away.  I just wanted to see

what some of the "cheap" scopes look like.  From the product photos on the website

here, the Tasco World class looks much better than the product offerings at Wally's.

Here is what I am planning on at this point.  Ill buy the two items below, adn I should

have a scope that should never come out of alignment on the 22.  I'll forgo sharing it

with the .357 Marlin.  So, I'll go post a new thread under centerfires for suggestions

for a scope for the marlin in the 100 - 300 range realizing I wont be able to buy it for

6 months at least.

 

Stock # Product  Picture Description    Mfg. Retail  SWFA Price
5225    Tasco    See-thru mount 10/22's.  $30.00        $9.95
3345    Tasco    3-9x40 WC & 8x21 Bino   $250.00   $49.95

Now if anyone has any other recommendations for the ruger 10/22, I will definately still

consider their input.

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