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    Posted: September/19/2012 at 10:42
Hi Guys

I bought a Olympus trooper 10x50 DPS I yesterday.I am newbie and using binos for bird watching and sky gazing.

The image through the binos is clear , but the image is shaky. Even on the close range , I find the that the image is shaking a bit. Though I am able to read on the objects far away  ( like a hotel top some 5 kms ) and even able to make out the crater spots on the moon , but can feel the image shaking.

I was wondering this issue is with all the 10X50 binos or its just mine working like this.
May be I am missing some configuration or adjustment.

Please guide and thanks in advance. Smile


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I am guessing that it's you!  Big Smile

Most folks notice the "shakes" when handholding 10 power binocs and up.

I used to be able to steadily hold about any 10 power but those days are long gone ...  Cool

I sometimes notice it with an 8 power if I'm out of breath or unsteady...

You didn't say if you noticed it with other 10x bins or not, so that would tell alot.

ALSO, you can experiment with various holds and move your hands around on the binocs.  I often find that holding them further toward the OBJECTIVE lens (the end AWAY from you) helps. 

It seems that porro binocs often (unintentionally on the maker's part) "force" you to hold them differently and not necessarily overcoming their center of gravity, whereas, the more compact design of roofs often mean that (in hands of the same size) you are holding more control over the unit and it's center of gravity.  Move your hands until you are overcoming their weight and center of gravity...

***PATENT INTENTION***  I may have to patent this "Binocular Akido"  Hippie

Another trick that helps me is to hold them in the regular way, but extend your forefingers away from your other fingers, and "brace" them against your forehead.  Like other hobbies and vocations of mine (shooting, photography, etc.) I find that more POINTS OF CONTACT or "BRACING" tends to help steady you out.
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Your problem is very likely your personal reaction to higher magnification, which also magnifies shake.  So that is lilely the problem, I think.  There are a couple of things to consider, one is that you may need to go to less power.  We are forever seeings posts about somebody asking questions about going to more magnification for more detail.  Sometimes that can work, sometimes it is a mistake.  A good 7x that you can hold steady is a lot better than a 10x that you cannot.  So you may need to consider a 7 or 8x binocular. 
 
As David pointed out, grip techniques can help.  But I'm sorry, his patent idea is at least 50 years behind Big Smile.  I learned that technique in college...more years ago than I like to think about these days.  Here is another variation in David's technique.  Hold the binocular cupped in the palms of your hands.  Your thumbs go back to your cheekbones, and as in David's method, your fingers go to the forehead.  That is two three point stances, one on each side of the binocular...your palm, your thumb and your forefinger.  If you wear a baseball type cap, you can also use your forefingers to hold the bill of the cap against the barrels of the binocular, that may help a lot too.  A good sturdy monopod or a stick the right length for your height may also help.
 
Welcome to Optics Talk to both of you too. Howdy
 
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Originally posted by shobhitmalhotra178 shobhitmalhotra178 wrote:

I bought a Olympus trooper 10x50 DPS I yesterday.

The image through the binos is clear , but the image is shaky. Even on the close range , I find the that the image is shaking a bit. Though I am able to read on the objects far away  ( like a hotel top some 5 kms ) and even able to make out the crater spots on the moon , but can feel the image shaking.

Image shake at 10x is normal for most people.

You can either find a comfortable sitting position or lean against a tree, etc.

Here's some other ideas.


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Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

 
Welcome to Optics Talk to both of you too. Howdy
 


Thanks for the welcome Klamath.

I've lurked for YEARS from time to time and find your posts VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE and VERY INFORMATIVE.  Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 
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