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This is a semi-review of the 700 5R Milspec and Millett Buck Gold 4-16x56.

First, some history. I am a 21 year old Army Reservist. This is my second long range set-up. My other one is a 6.5 grendel ar I decided to build about a year ago.  I have shot my 6.5 at 600 yards before but not any farther. About a month ago, I was in a minor motorcycle accident. I put my bike down riding over some oil slick roads going about 25-30 mph. The money I was going to origionally use on a new leupold, I spent on a new fairing for my bike and riding boots (really screwed up my feet in the crash, even though I was wearing my old pair of desert combat boots.) I did a few days of research on scopes around the $300 mark. I found some info on Millett, and though to myself that this was the perfect scope. I was origionally going to go with a TRS-1 4-16x50 but changed my mind because of the the large magnification wheel. I then found some info on the Buck Gold. I had asked a few questions about if a 56mm scope would clear the top of my barrel, and got two very good answers from Kickboxer and KB0WZL. I had hesitated a little, just imagining what I would do if it didn't fit.

The scope arrived about two weeks ago, but it would be another week before I would finally pass the ncis check and pick up the rifle from the FFL.  My first impression when I unboxed the scope was the high quality of packing and how large the scope was!! The quality was on par of my Leupold Mk 2. I took the scope to the range by itself to test quality of optics. The light gathered by the huge 56mm objective is amazing. The view was very clear looking at a 8" gong at 600 yards. I had a guy at the range down few lanes from me with a Leupold Mk4 laughing his ass off when he saw me with a scope but no gun. We got into a conversation and compared scopes. I let him look though mine first, and he actually complimented the scope for its price range. I dialed his scope to 14x and mine to 14x to compare them both. While the leupold was of higher quality, the Buck Gold was very close in terms of quality.  My motto in terms of scopes has been to pay as much for the scope as the rifle, but not any more.

I went to pick up the rifle last Friday and the first thing I did was to make sure it fit on a pair of Leupold high rings and two-piece base. It fit perfectly! About .25cm clearance with the scope cover on the sun shade. I boresighted the scope from home with a laserlyte kryptonyte, grabbed a few boxes of walmart ammo and recently loaded 155 scenars, a drop chart and headed off to the range to break in the rifle.

i was using some heavy ammo to break it in, 180gr fmj. While breaking in, I also made sure the scope would hold zero. After 40 rounds the scope was still aiming true. I then went down a few lanes to the 600 yard lanes. Delicately placed a 155gr scenar into the chamber and adjusted the scope up. At first, the scope wouldnt adjust for elevation or wind. I realised the scope had locking turrets for the adjustment. I think my hair is turning blondeBig Smile The clicks were very easily felt, and audible through the ear muffs. I adjusted for elevation and wind and fired. Miss. The round was about a foot and half above the gong. I re-adjusted and fired. Hit, center mass. I went on to put 50 rounds of 155gr scenars through the barrel before I was done for the day. The scope held true and did not move after the 50 rounds. The rifle was shooting about a 5in group at 600 yards, right under moa. I was very satisfied, not only in the scope and rifle, but also that it stabilized the 155gr scenars perfectly.

Here is the rifle and scope right before bore-sighting. I was so excited, I forgot to bring my camera to the range.

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Nice setup, thanks for including pictures.
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That is a very nice looking rig.  I am very glad it is working well for you.  Please keep us informed of your progress with it.  

BTW, I AM blonde... did that once with locking turrets, as well...
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Nice setup.  hope it holds up for you.  
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I never would have thought this thing would be that good......You really think its as rugged as the Leo?
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Nice review and great pix. I have the same rifle and am looking forward to trying it out soon. Betweeen work and travel just haven't had time to get to the range yet.
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Thanks for including the photos - nice rig.
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I have an opportunity to pick up a Millet Buck Gold 4 x 16 x 56 scope, new in box, for around $169.00.  This opportunity won't last long and I really don't need another scope; however, I'd like some input guys as to whether or not getting this scope at this price would be worth the investment. I'm sure I'll find something in my gun safe to mount the damned thing on. Thanks for some feedback.
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NIB for the price it is a bargain. If it is indeed in new condition. Check to be sure as I doubt the warranty would extend to second owner.
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It is new. I work at a retailer and can purchase the scope from them for the above price with my employee discount. Just didn't want to waste my money on a product that wasn't worth it at any price. If it is a reliable product, then it would be well worth the price. I'm just trying to get some feedback here on the quality and reliability of the scope from some guys that may have had some experience with it.
Thanks for the reply.
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Originally posted by DrBackJack DrBackJack wrote:

About a month ago, I was in a minor motorcycle accident. I put my bike down riding over some oil slick roads going about 25-30 mph. 


The guy who taught me to ride taught me the most valuable of motorcycle lessons.

2 kinds of motorcycle riders: those who "have" laid a bike down and those who "will" lay a bike down.  Only 2 kinds.

Originally posted by DrBackJack DrBackJack wrote:

My motto in terms of scopes has been to pay as much for the scope as the rifle, but not any more. 


My wife wishes I had that motto. Alas, it ain't to be.




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Well since I don't have the rifle yet, and just was buying the scope for some future project I might put together,  I can't follow your reasoning. Besides, since I have a few $1,000 rifles, I can assure you it is not necessary to top them with $1,000 scopes in order to assemble an accurate and dependable rifle.

Was just asking a question about this scope at this price..nothing more or less.
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No one took it otherwise.

Glad the scope is working for you.
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very nice
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I have put two bikes down, both involving gravel
Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Originally posted by DrBackJack DrBackJack wrote:

About a month ago, I was in a minor motorcycle accident. I put my bike down riding over some oil slick roads going about 25-30 mph. 


The guy who taught me to ride taught me the most valuable of motorcycle lessons.

2 kinds of motorcycle riders: those who "have" laid a bike down and those who "will" lay a bike down.  Only 2 kinds.

Originally posted by DrBackJack DrBackJack wrote:

My motto in terms of scopes has been to pay as much for the scope as the rifle, but not any more. 


My wife wishes I had that motto. Alas, it ain't to be.




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What kind of motorcycle do you have?
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Hi had this same scope too worked well for a while until the power ring let go 300 ultra mag, company replaced it no questions asked. Put the new one on a 243 been fine since.
When it comes to quality, hell leopold had cross hair breakage on their sniper scopes for a while, then replaced them and fixed the problem. Oh yes and for Mr. texas, up here in the great free north, we would never put a bushnell on a true sniper rifle, mabe us optics, or king optics just to be canadian loyal, god help us not a bushnell they mite send us contacts with different wearing and cleaning directions, but to be honest they are ok for and over priced for-en scope, its just that everyone cant afford a trully good scope, and 80 percent of the brands out there are just that average. Well thats my 2 cents, what the heck.
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