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I'm thinking of getting a new semi-automatic rifle for coyotes, but I'm going to get a caliber I can use for deer in the future.  I’m from Ohio, where rifles are illegal for hunting deer, so it would be for out of state.  I'm unfamiliar with other states hunting regulations, so the question I have is, is it legal to use a semi-automatic rifle to hunt deer in Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania?  Also if a semi-automatic rifle is not legal, is a rifle legal at all for that state for deer season?  Thanks in advance!

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Semi-auto is legal for hunting in WV.
 
IIRC, they are illegal for PA.
 
Most, if not all states post their hunting regs online; this may be safer than taking someone's word for it.


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It's legal in Wisconsin in rifle designated areas, magazines are limited to 5 shells.
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Semi-auto is legal in MI.

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Ok, yeah I tried looking online for some answers, but I was having trouble finding answers, so I thought I'd ask here for a quick answer.  Thanks for the help everyone
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What caliber are you considering? 
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I've been mildly drooling over Merkel SR 1's. Supposedly their gas system is very good.

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I hunt with a 6.8 SPC, 16" barrel, 95g Barnes TTSX at 2850 a lot of the times
good for deer, coyotes and pig from point blank out to 400 though I tend to use it for closer range  most of the time..

I like how an AR slings across your chest with a 2 point sling for out stalk hunting..



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I plan on getting a .308.  I'm just trying to figure out if I'm going to get a bolt action or semi-automatic.  I'm looking at AR's by DPMS or Rock River Arms, or a Remington 700 for a bolt action.

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ccoker, how do you like the 6.8 SPC?  I've been looking at some rifles in that caliber too.  It's Bigger than a .223, which I use now, but smaller than a .308
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Originally posted by coyotehunter coyotehunter wrote:

I plan on getting a .308.  I'm just trying to figure out if I'm going to get a bolt action or semi-automatic.  I'm looking at AR's by DPMS or Rock River Arms, or a Remington 700 for a bolt action.


Check out the FNH FNAR, both light and "heavy" versions.    Mine is sub-moa with a Kahles ZF84 6x42, VERY nice shooter.  I don't generally recommend things, but I DO recommend this rifle.  I bought it to hunt hogs and zombies, but plan on using it for deer and coyotes this year as well.  Barnes TTSX 168gr loaded to 2740FPS is devastating on hogs.  I suspect it will be on deer, as well.  
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First if you hunt coyotes and intend to sell the pelt you want a caliber that does not severly damage it that means  17 Remmington,  .223,  22-250,  possibly  204 Ruger with the 22-250 being the  most common favorite.
For coyotes under 100 yds a 22mag using the correct ammo is possible:
1. (CCI GamePoint Ammunition 22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR) 40 Grain Jacketed Spire Point)
2.(Winchester Supreme Ammunition 22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR) 34 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point)
3.(Hornady Critical Defense Ammunition 22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR) 45 Grain Flex Tip eXpanding)
 
Rifles that work well for coyotes and are legal for deer will be larger than 22 cal and the most common choice is  .243 Win which has loaded ammo from 55 gr to 100 gr but the barrel twist determines what will stabalize.  Of the .243 Rifles I would recommend a bolt action Tikka T3 its light and easy to carry.  DPMS does make a high capacity semi auto in a .243 but its an AR10 (.308) platform larger than an AR-15. As already mentioned the 6.8 SPC is a AR-15 platform round capable of similar performance but look closely at the balistics before choosing.   The 204 Ruger is also an AR-15 platform cartridge and a fine choice for varmits up to coyote but not adequate for deer.
 
A lot of people want a semi auto with high capacity but I suggest that a light weight bolt gun is more hunting friendly. And a Leupold FX3 6x42 long range duplex is an adequate scope.  
 
 For you I would suggest a .243 or a 7mm08 in a Tikka T3
 
Iowa rifle only in late antlerless season in lower two tiers of counties. Muzzleloader or slug gun or bow.
most states that allow rifle limit mag to 5 rounds.


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Semi-autos are legal in Kentucky, but are limited to no more than a 10 round magazine. So leave the 20 rounder at home.
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Semi-autos with 10 round clips OK here too (CA).
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5 rounds on public lands here... private lands... "rack 'em an' stack 'em...
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I would also consider a Browning BAR.  Good reliable guns, with lots of caliber options.  Decent accuracy as well.  

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+1... BAR's are "the bomb"... also the "basis" rifle for the FNH FNAR...  BAR with BOSS is laser accurate, sub-MOA.  

Let me qualify that... you must TUNE it.  BAR w/BOSS is meaningless without considerable "tuning"...


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My grandfather used both an old BAR in 7mm and an old Remington semi-auto in 30.06. He and most of his hunting partners used the semi - remmy 30.06 for game here and the 7mm BAR's when hunting Colorado, etc.
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Personally I am not a fan of the BOSS. I have no doubt they help with accuracy, but those make the guns very very loud.  I shot one once and even with my muffs on it was very loud. 

I can shoot my BARs when hunting without muffs and it does not bother me, but I don't think I would dare shoot a BOSS system without muffs. 
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Personally I am not a fan of the BOSS. I have no doubt they help with accuracy, but those make the guns very very loud.  I shot one once and even with my muffs on it was very loud. 

I can shoot my BARs when hunting without muffs and it does not bother me, but I don't think I would dare shoot a BOSS system without muffs. 

Absolutely... that's why Browning made the CR (conventional recoil) BOSS attachment. 

The 30-06 BAR with BOSS/muzzle brake is one of the loudest guns I've ever fired.  I have a Stalker in 7mmMag with BOSS.  They both have the CR for hunting.  Does the same tuning job without all the noise.  Of course, no recoil reduction, either.  
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Ahh, good to know.  I did not know they did that.  Excellent
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I don't think center fire rifles are legal for hunting deer in Indiana regardless of action type. Shotguns, muzzle loaders and handguns are, but I'm not sure of the details for deer.
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Ok.  Well thanks for the help and suggestions everyone, it all is greatly appreciated. 

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Michigan allows Semi-Auto but limit them to 6 shells capacity (that includes whats in the chamber and magazine).  This applies to all rifles and shotguns except .22's for all legal game.  The lower half of the state is shotgun only for deer, the upper half and the UP allow centerfire.
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A BAR in 25-06 seems like it would be just about perfect for you!  I'm not a fan of the .243 for deer - personnal experience.  You didn't mention Nebraska, but it also has the limit of 5 shells in magazine.  I have a BAR in 30-06 that I hunt deer with... 150 grs and also coyotes with 110 grainers.  The 110s don't do much pelt damage.  But we aren't too concerned about that as the hounds have a tendency to chew em up pretty good.  Tallyho!!  Big Grin
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