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Uses backpacking gun. Short fast handling. Will get range time shooting steel maybe out to 500. Purpose would be for up close to 200 yards. Dangerous game or defense. Will probably be a 308 or possibly a variant of it , 7mm 08, 338 fed, not too sure yet. Most probably a bolt action I am looking into a socom scout, but that is a lot of money. Maybe even a lever action. This will be a project gun so standard prices are to be considered not deals or sales at this time. Any info and suggestions would be appreciated.

Which scopes would you suggest for 
1. a forward mounted scout scope situation and 
2. standard configuration. I would prob get the SS 1x4 even though it is over my budget.

Scope needs
1. Eye relief would be first priority of course for the scout configuration.
2. Low end power. 1-4 or 2-7 along those lines. 
3. Fast acquisition ret. 
4. Would like to stay around $500.00 or less.

Feel free to suggest platforms for the riffle itself, if you would like. This is a brain storm in the making.



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the biggest problem is that scout scopes still date from the 80's. The new ruger gunsite scout updates the concept a lot by using AI drop box magazines in 308.  This does away with the need of having the action open for reloading and allows the scope to moved back more without loosing the scout rifle concept. This would also take advantage of new scope models such as the SS 1x4,Z8. zeiss short dot etc. The ruger's flash supressor is far to short to be effective needs one like the m1a, or replace it with a muzzle brake or some type of shorter crown protector. A scout rifle by definition has a good set of irons for back up, which the ruger has but the  rear peep needs to be opened for faster acquisition. Savage has a 7/08 scout which is pretty good, but doesn't have the solid feel as the ruger or customs. 
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I used to use a 2.5X scout scope with a Swiss K-31 rifle. It was decent out to 200 yards. I learned how to shoot with both eyes open using it. I think now on a rifle that has a mount farther back I'd prefer a more versatile 1-4, 1-8 or 2-7.
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I was looking hard at the Ruger.
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I looked hard at the Ruger but felt like the bolt was a bit sloppy could just be that particular rifle. First off you really need to decide if this is an anti-personnel weapon or defense from a Bear - there is a big difference. With the SOCOM it is the ideal close battle rifle and an Aimpoint scope works very well or you can select either the Leupold or Burris scout scopes possibly others but those two are the most likely choices available.  I absolutely love the SOCOM cant say enough good about the M1a platform. Price wise though you can have a 16 in M4 type DPMS .308   AP4 for much less money and can mount traditional optics more easily with that platform.  The  SOCOM to me feels more natural with only the open sights but I have a Comp M4s on mine and that works well.  If you were talking defense from a Bear I'd suggest larger bullet than a .308 and  the .375 H&H or a .338 Win Mag is ideal but if you want to keep length down one of the 45-70 Marlin Guide guns would be a good choice but even on its best day it has now where near the energy of the .338WM or .375 H&H. I just tend to think that .308 is lighter than I want for a bear but I know that I could make it work by hand loading heavy bullets like the Nosler 200 gr Accubond or better yet a heavy 220 gr Nosler Partition but you seldom find really heavy bullets loaded for .308   
Savage is also making a 10FP version that is a Scout  rifle although it does not have a hi cap mag it does have the forward rail and Savage rifles shoot very well.  Tikka makes a  338 WM they shoot very well.
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Urimaginaryfrnd, 

Well here in KY all we have is Small Black Bear. Likelihood of running into one is small, especially where I would be hiking at. And no there is no need for a huge bore. The 338 federal is a possibility as well as the 338 Marlin. 45/70 is not what I would want in a light carry rifle. I plan on shooting this weapon enough to get very familiar with i,t so that is not what I am looking for.

The more I think about it the less I am leaning towards a SOCOM. I want simple mechanics in this rifle. As I said this is in the brain storming phase. Thanks for your input. 
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Interesting thing about the ruger, they could have gone either way, once the box magazine came into the picture. Add a tactical bolt handle, increase the barrel length, offer it in a 260, and they would have cleaned up on the low end tactical rifle market. Or just sell it as a regular scout, or modernize and go to new generation low range variables. Here are two traditional scouts from the 80's, just as useful today as when the concept originated. 
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