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    Posted: April/09/2009 at 12:09
Last year I purchased 3 scopes from SWFA based on the info on this forum and am highly satisfied with each of them; Kahles 3x10x50 on Rem 700 30-06, Bushnell 4200 for Ruger #1 in 308, and a Nikon Omega with BDC reticle for TC ProHunter Muzzle Loader. Each performed well and led to the harvest of 2 deer and a Ram this year. Thanks for the previous recommendations!

Here's my question. I have purchased a new barrel for my ProHunter in  7mm-08. I have never shot the round, but have friends who swear by it. Considering the ballistics and versatility of this round in a 28" TC stainless barrel, which scope and mounts would you select to accompany this barrel into the deer woods or mountain terrain?

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What kind of budget?, I'm thinking something in the 2x8 range whould be great, also nother wrong with a standard 3x9.
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I did leave out any reference to budget. I would like to stay under $500, but am more interested in getting a complimentary optic that will be matched to the round. I'm thinking Bushnell, Sightron, and even thinking about the Primos scope.

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I'm not sure I know what you mean by "matched to the round."  Can you clarify?

It is not a long-range round, so high magnification would be a waste. 

A 28" barrel?  That's quite a pecker sticking out there to be roaming the woods.


I'd look at the 2.5-8x32 Conquest and the 3-9x40 Trijicon Accupoint.

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A TC barrel actually sits back a lot farther because there is not action on the gun because it is single shot.  So a 28" Prohunter  would actually have a shorter overall length than a 26" tubed Remington rifle by about 3 inches.
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So part of the barrel length is actually the chamber?
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I have Leupold dual dove rings on my T/C barrels.I have the 7mm-08 and have killed many deer with the Remington 140 grain Nosler Partition ammo.This particular rifle barrel is scoped with a Bushnell 3200 3-9x40 FireFly.  
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Any multi-coated of around 3-9x in your price range out to do it: Burris, Bushnell, Leupold, Nikon, Zeiss Conquest, etc.. I have taken quite a bit of big game with the 7mm-08 and the 7x57 (same ballistics) and can't imagine ever needing more than 3-9x.
 
The 7mm-08 is mostly known as a deer round but here in Montana quite a few people use one on elk. A good friend of mine has three sons that he started out with 7mm-08's, and they never saw any reason to change. Today they are all in their 20's and all together they have taken over 30 elk and never had a problem.
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I'd cut the barrel back 6 to 10 inches and put a 4x Conquest on it.  Mister knee hates extra weight any more.
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Originally posted by John Barsness John Barsness wrote:

Any multi-coated of around 3-9x in your price range out to do it: Burris, Bushnell, Leupold, Nikon, Zeiss Conquest, etc.. 
 
There you go. 
 
Personally, I'd lean toward the Conquest 3x9.
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I like the idea of a good 3-9, too. They are fine on the low end and have plenty of magnification for the longer shots at big game. Any of the scopes in the brands that John Barsness mentioned would be my choice, though I don't have a Conquest.
I think the 4200 3-9 is one of my favorites in this class with the Nikon Primos up next. I don't have the Primos but the older UCC Monarch. The UCC has a plex and the Primos a BDC. Other than that they are both the same. We have more than a few of each around our deer camp and there is not a single complaint with glass or mechanicals on these two scopes.


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I can't argue with the recommendations made so far.  I would choose a good 2-7X36, 2-8X32, 2.5-8X32, 3-9X40/42, or 2.5-10X42 class scope from the Bushnell 4200, Nikon Monarch or Primos, Leupold VX-3, Vortex Viper, Trijicon Accupoint, Zeiss Conquest, etc. series.  You can't hardly go wrong with any of the above.  You don't need more than 10X on the upper end of the magnification range for any normal hunting situation using the 7-08.  The 7-08 happens to be my favorite deer cartridge, so I can understand why you'd want one.  It's a balanced, versatile, efficient cartridge.
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I have a T/C Encore,CVA Elite,Kimber Montana all three in 7mm-08.Nice results since 2003 using that round.
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Thanks for the input. Posing a question on this forum is like sitting around the deer camp and debating an issue. You can get a good spread of opinion based on experience as well as personal opinion. What I have learned about the 7mm-08 is that has a flat trajectory, good muzzle velocity, and good muzzle energy out to 400 yds. I wanted to hear from some of you who have used the round and what scope you found to be good with it. As some have said the TC Encore is a single shot and the 28" barrel does not create an unwieldy rifle.

At this point, I am leaning to the Bushnell Elite 4200 or the Nikeon Primos. The Primos is a great buy at $219 new or $179 Refurbished. Not sure which way I will go.

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4200 Elite if a standard reticle is your cup of tea . ( my Primos for me isn't conducive to quick shots and is only relevant when on 9x-- just too busy a reticle   IMO) ....plus the 4200 has Rainguard ..
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While I suggested a 3-9x, I have mostly used straight 4x or lower-power variables on 7mm-08's or 7x57's, scope in the 1.5-5x to 2-7x class. But I have also found out that most people like more X's, especially when sighting-in and developing loads.  

There's nothing wrong with a 3-9x, even if you leave it on 4x or 6x for most hunting. Most companies put more R&D effort (and money) into 3-9x  or 3-10x scopes than any others, because they sell more of those. Also, because they sell more, those scopes are also often priced LOWER than any others in their lineup. So 3-9's tend to be very good values.

With the 28" barrel your 7mm-08 steps up a little in velocity. I wouldn't be surprised if 140-grain factory loads get 3000 fps or close to it. Essentially it's a .270, so think of it that way. Also, extra magnification can help in dim light. And a 3-9x with a 40mm objective will still have about a 4.5mm exit pupil, providing a pretty good image. While some of us may still prefer a 4x or 6x, or a bigger variable, it's still hard to beat the basic 3-9x!

I'll be interested in hearing how your barrel shoots. I have had good luck with the Encore barrels.
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My T/C Encore barrels have proven to be very accurate.
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If "Mountain" rifle means hoofin' it up hill all day I'd go with a Trijicon 1.25-4 or a Leupold 2-7x36. The 7mm-08 has the same trajectory as a 270 with 90% of the ballistics. 
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