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hey guys ,

 

 recently purchased a steyr prohunter ss in 308 cannot decide on what scope to put on it.I've looked at Leupold, Nikon,Zeiss,and i haven't been able to find a Kahles or S&B to look through. i know all are good scopes but i just can't decide and price is not the most important thing and does anyone have any thoughts on the Shepards?

 

 thanks ,

   randy

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What type of hunting and/or shooting will you be doing?

If you need maximum versatility, you can't go wrong with the high-end S&B or Swarovski.  Zeiss Conquest is a great value in a scope IMO.  I generally shy away from Nikon due to customer service issues.  I would not quite place the Leupold VX-7 in the same league optically as the European stuff, but it does have a couple of nice features (caps with magnets, adjustment knobs that can't fall off, etc.)

If you don't or generally shoot out to less than 200 yards, I would recommend the Kahles 4X fixed power.  Lightweight, compact, optics nearly as good as those previously mentioned.

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There is lots of discussion on Shepard scopes here use the search function to find them, most is not favorable , I have never owned one so I can`t say

 

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I have a friend who has a Shepard and he likes it but I dont know of any other fans of that optic and the glass is middle of the road. There are several manufacturers who make range estimating reticles. In fact all mil dot reticles are range estimating if you know the  size of the target you can mathmatically figure out the distance by seeing how many mils it measures and do the math or use a "Mildotmaster" which works like a slide rule.  Alternatively some manufacturers have designed balistic plex type reticles that are designed to estimate one specific type of animal usually deer size game and provide a known holdover point. If however you use a laser rangefinder which is very usefull you will know at the push of a button distance to target.  Most deer  rifles are sighted at either 100 yds or 200 yds and for most high power cartridges there is only a few inches difference in point of impact. You should also know what your trajectory is out further. When you get out past 300 yds the wind can blow your bullet off target a significant distance and you should have some idea of what wind drift will do. As for the scope dont fall into thinking that just because you buy an extremely expensive scope it will in turn give you more consistent kills. Nice glass is plesant to have but reliablilty in how the scope adjustments work and their ability to hold zero and stand up to abuse are also quite important. There are many fans of the Zeiss Conquest line of scopes here the up side to them is great glass the down side is that they have a limited number of reticle choices and dont have any balistic plex type lines but they do have mil dot which will do the same thing. The Nikon has some balistic plex type reticles that aid in known holdover but these are rear focal plane scopes and that means that the hold over points are only correct at the maximum power of the scope Burris, Leupold etc same same.  Everyone insists that Leupold is over priced but I have several and they have served well. As for Burris their Euro Diamond line seems to be a good value.

200916 Burris 3-12x50 Euro Diamond 30mm Rifle Scope                                                                            Burris 3-12x50 Euro Diamond 30mm Rifle Scope
  • Matte
  • Ballistic Plex
  • 30mm
  • Hunter/Comp. Knobs
SWFA: $499.95
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As for Leupold I have a 4.5-14x50 30mm VXIII that I just love and mine doesnt even have the nice B&C reticle like this one.

LEU57140 Leupold 4.5-14x50 VX-III 30mm Riflescope                                                                                Leupold 4.5-14x50 VX-III 30mm Riflescope
  • Matte
  • Boone & Crockett
  • 30mm
  • Long Range
  • Side Focus
  • Index Matched Lens System
  • Free One-year Membership to Boone and Crockett Club's Associates Program w/ Purchase
SWFA: $769.95
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As for European glass the IOR is the best value and I really like their tactical line and the MP8 version of mil dot reticle.

414508 IOR 4-14x50 Tactical 30mm Rifle Scope                                                                                   IOR 4-14x50 Tactical 30mm Rifle Scope
  • Matte
  • MP-8
  • 30mm
  • Side Focus
  • Free IOR Sun Shade w/ Purchase
SWFA: $894.95
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 hey guys

 i appreciate all of your responses.here in the great state of VA the longest shot i'll probably take is 200-250 unless i'm down on the border of NC so a fixed might be the way togo especially with the thickness of some of the wooda around here. i do in the future plan on heading out west and to alaska for some hunting so a variable scope might be the ticket right know i'm trying to buy thirty some acres so i can have a place of my own to do some shooting etc.. no point in haveing all these gun and no place to play.the wife is yelling at me so i'll talked to ya'll later let ya'll know on what i decide thanks again randy

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