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I'm new to this sight. I need a good scope for my Remington 30-06. What scope do you recommend? No price limit. I hunt in the mid west and also Canada.
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if you got the money, get an IOR hunter, Highend Swarovski or Zeiss, Kahles, or Schmidt and Bender -

 

you can't go wrong w/ any of those.

 

if you want a great scope and want to save a lil money - get a meostar by meopta.

 

good luck - let us know what you decide.

 

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Hello Bama

 

I recommend a Zeiss VM/V or a Schmidt & Bender C or PH in a 2.5-10 or 3-12 power configuration preffered.

You will not find better optics or quality constuction for the price than the above mentioned.

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Thanks, I'm leaning toward the Zeiss or Swarosvki.

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Swarovski does not have the glass quality of the above two mentioned but it is the lightest but not as robust.

Kahles C has better quality glass and vconstruction than Swarovski.

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Normally I am prefering Zeiss.

But now when Swarovski have released their Z6 line i would probably go for them.

1,7-10x42 sounds like a very interesting sight, at least as long as you need the possibility to shoot at short ranges as well as long ranges.

 

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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

Swarovski does not have the glass quality of the above two mentioned but it is the lightest but not as robust.

Kahles C has better quality glass and vconstruction than Swarovski.

 

I dunno... I'd have to disagree on that one.  I've looked through all except the S&B in various light and environmental conditions, and I honestly can't tell any difference in optical performance between any of these excellent scopes, certainly not enough to choose one over the other based solely on optics.  If there is a difference, to my eyes, it's so slight as to be too trivial to worry about, so I'd pick based on price, weight & length, and reticle choices among those options.

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Hello SVD666,

 

Are you sure about that?

 

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Hello Javali,Rifledude

 

Yes it is my opinion that a AMV coated Kahles has better glass than the current Swarovski,

I have not seen a Z6 yet but it is rumored to be unchanged in glass quality. I will give the edge

to S&B, Zeiss,and Kahles compared to the current Swarovski. One of the biggest complaints

I have heard of the Swarovski is the shock absorbing eyepiece failing in the field and a slight lack

of penetrating shadows and objects in the dark. See the Tbone post in the field tests section for

discription of this lack of penetration from the Swarovski. These have been my observations but

it matters most what is observed by the user in the field.

 

You must be looged in to view this.

 

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4486&PN=1



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i would agree w/ svd666 - the kahles in the lowlight, to my eyes, seems to be just as good or better.

 

you do pay for a name when you buy swaro or zeiss, but they are indeed excellent optics.

 

for that matter, the meostar by meopta is not far behind them all. and half the price.

 

kahles is nothing short of amazing for the money.  it's definitely worth your time to check out.

 

the zeiss diavari line has been the standard among my ring of buddies for years, but kahles is just as good for cheaper.

 

my 2 cents.

 

bottom line, all the scopes that are mentioned here would be just fine.

 

j

 

 

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Kahles are an excellent scope for the money. They are durable, the adjustments are crisp and repeatable. The glass is very bright and the resolution is great all the way to the edge.
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What model Kahles would you buy?
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This one but I prefer Zeiss or S&B. Cost does not matter right?

 

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/51622/kahles_2.5-10x50_h elia_c_30mm_riflescope.htm



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i like the kahles C - but the CL is nice if you are doing longer range shooting and need the sidefocus.

 

it is a wonderful scope. great glass/coatings/construction.

 

good luck.

 

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Boy, I wish I could get to the point in life where "cost doesn't matter."  I've never personally met anyone to whom cost doesn't matter, regardless of their income level!

 

Heck, if cost truly doesn't matter, go for it and get one of the top of the line Zeiss or S&B scopes!

 

Me, I'd personally rather get a $1000 - $1200 scope that will still be d&mn good and spend the $800 to $1000 I saved on a new rifle to go with it, but call me crazy!



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Yep, I'm with ya on that one RD. I could get a Kimber Montana, 3-9 4200, Talley LW's and drive halfway to my farm for that money.
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You're in a fortunate position in that you have no limitations cost-wise.  If I were in your shoes, I'd definitely lean toward the following:

--Zeiss VM/V;

--S&B Zenith or Classic;

 

The Swarovski Z6 line (which reputably wow'd a lot of people @ the SHOT show) is unchanged from a glass & coatings standpoint from their current PH series.  This is certainly not substandard but, in my opinion and that of many others here, not as good or superior to that of the aforementioned S&B or Zeiss.

 

Best of luck & let us know what you decide...

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I'm leaning toward a Zeiss. What do you think?
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I would say unless you plan on hunting in Europe or some other country where hunting big game at night is legal, I'd get a Kahles and spend the extra money on the rifle or a great set of binoculars.
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Originally posted by bama bama wrote:

I'm leaning toward a Zeiss. What do you think?

 

I think you'll be a VERY happy shooter!  Lets just say that there isn't a legal hunting situation where you'll ever be "under-scoped!"  Pretty much the cat's ass of hunting scopes... 

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Originally posted by bama bama wrote:

I'm leaning toward a Zeiss. What do you think?

 

Here is my 2 cents.

 

I try to buy only  Zeiss or Kahles scopes. Khales makes a hell of a scope for the money. Yes, I even like them more so than Swarovski, mine just seems brighter.

 

The seperation between Kahles & Zeiss & Zeiss with Swarovski & other scopes is, weather. All of these optics are great for hunting in low light when the weather is good. You won't go wrong with any of them.

 

Its on evenings and afternoons when you're hunting late & its very cloudy overcast with a dark moon that IMO Zeiss starts to pull away. The finest scope I've ever actually taken to the woods is a Zeiss 3-12x56 VM/V #8 illuminated recticle. GOD!!!!!!! Talk about clarity & low light gathering capability. I'm talking in ALL WEATHER. Dark moon, full moon, overcast, hunting fields or woods, it doesn't matter. If an animal shows up like Zeiss says, "They will make it visible". Now this was a 3-12 scope without the FL & LotuTec coating.

 

I can't even imagine the capability of the VM/V 6-24x72.


 

 



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That VM/V 6-24x72 scared my friend is Las Vegas,I need to make time to go check it out and a few other

scopes of intrest. This is where I have done my best long range shooting also,I am going to plan a trip soon.

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