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hi i want to buy scope under $500 for shooting at 400 to 600 yards ihave 243win brno any sugestions are welcome
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maybe a nikon monarch UCC w/ the BDC reticle?

 

is this for hunting? or strictly targets?  and will there be any short shots?

 

this will help us help you.

 

thanks

 

and welcome to the OT.

 

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for hunting and there wil be short shots and long also

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I would definitely go variable then - w/ power up to 14 or 20 or so.

 

try monarch UCC by nikon / or maybe even a bushnell elite 4200 if you can swing it.

 

remember, spend good money on rings and bases, as they are JUST as important as the gun and scope.

 

good luck and let us know what you find.

 

J

 

 

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To Hunter from Pakistan:

 

Sir, do yourself a favor.

Look at the ballistics of your .243 caliber gun and do not listen to some of these "experts".

.243 is good to about 275 yards for big game.

Shooting 100 grain it than goes down fast after 300yards and looses killing power at a very rapid rate.

At 600 yards you may have to hold as much as 4 feet over target (you cannot estimate how much is 4' at that distance), never mind that you will be holding croshair up in the blue not even seeing the target, your bullet will walk in there with maybe some 400 fps and so far I mentioned barely half of your problems.

Like a small breeze over the target you cannot feel, exact distance of target to 10 yard accuracy, holding large magnification rock steady etc, etc.

Than after you shoot and animal runs you may not have a landmark where it was EXACTLY. So you will waist time to wander around, will never find any blood and than wander for rest of a day if you hit it at all.

Big game deserves a respect. Shoot for sure and clean kill. That would mean 300win magnum on these distances. And if you think you can hit a small game that far out, go right ahead and waist your money on a big scope.

I shoot .270 and 25-06 calibers and it would not cross my mind to wound an animal that far away just because I can.

But than again, there is all kind of "hunters" out there.

Good luck!

 

P.S. 3x9 Nikon Monarch is all you will ever need on .243cal.

 

 

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Shocked  To Talpur from Pakistan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The last post from IBUD2020 is absolutely correct!!!! You are NOT shooting a 7mm mag. or a 30 caliber magnum!!!! You must match your scope to your rifle`s or cartridge capability!!!................The .243 IS NOT a 400 to 600 yard hunting cartridge!!!! With any kind of low breeze your lighter, less ballistic co-efficient 243 bullets, at those distances, will veer from any kind of realistic killing zone on any medium sized game for which the 243 was designed for.............The .243 Win. at those long distances, is not even a realistic target cartridge either. Bullets are too light and trajectories too significant, not including any windage problems!!!!.................You have a cartridge in your .243, that was designed for up to medium sized game, at moderate distances, with an estimated maximum of 300 yards with the heavier bullets. After the 300 yard mark, the downrange ballistic killing power in energy and velocity falls off considerably, making for far more guess work in hold over, windage and in general, a far more difficult shot!!!!!...................If your shooting at paper or non-living targets, you may prefer a maximum power of 12x, 14x, or 16x, which would be justified for closer looks. However, for hunting with your .243, the 3x9, up to a 3x12 MAXIMUM, would be the best all-round choice.........At under $500 you have several great choices in our recommended variables. Anyone of these will work wonderfully on your .243............Nikon Monarch,,,,,,Leupold VX111,,,,,Burris Signature Select,,,,,Zeiss Conquest, 3x9 only at under $500,,,,,,,,,,Bushnell Elite 4200......................I personally own the 3x9 Bushnell Elite 4200 mounted on a 300 WSM, (Winchester Short Magnum), which is far superior in downrange ballistics and killing power than the .243. For me and for most hunters who own .30 caliber magnums, the 3X9 is all that`s needed for any hunting situation!!!!....IF you are going to hunt, don`t over scope your .243!!!................................................Hope this helps you!!.......................Good luck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Big Squueze!
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Well the intended targets were not mentioned for size and I wouldn't hesitate to go past 400yds on groundhogs with a 243 and have done so in the past. To answer the question you put forth.......I would look at the 4200 elite in 4x16 power as a good dual purpose hunting scope. Priced in your budget and a very good choice for the money, I have one on a 22-250 that will take prairie dogs, chucks, and coyotes from 25yds to beyond 400yds, so will a well tuned handloaded 243.

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Yes!!! In this case, small varmits were not mentioned. Given the right wind conditions, the proper BC bullet, the .243 will take care of smaller varmits at the longer ranges. Myself and ibud2020 did however, put emphasis on the larger /medium sized game, down range bullet ballastic co-efficiency, trajectory, energy/killing power and so forth because the original post said,,,, out to 600 yards!!!!....................Varmits are one thing at longer ranges. Medium sized game,,, is a different ball game!..... Although capable, I would be somewhat hesitant taking a deer sized animal at 500 to 600 yards with my 300 WSM!!! Not the preferred range, though it can be done! But certainly, far more difficult with a .243 when you take into account the wind, down range ballistics, trajectories, and so on!!!............A few things that perhaps,,,,talpur from Pakistan,,,,may not have taken into account?????.Wink.................
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You definatly need a different rifle to make the shots you are suggesting.As far as the scope goes I have a Leupold in the VX II 6-18X40 with the A/O and the long range reticle which gives you several more aimpoints all for under $500.00
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You will not get good low light performance with the VX-II or even the VX-III for that matter.  If you are limited to 30 min. after sunset, it would work though.
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let me tell all u people that hunting is very diffrent here the big game hare is  only weight about 35kg i had seen a friend hunting antilope with 22-250 at 500yards but antilope hare only weight 10kg max so i am very confident in 243 to shoot at 500yards
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Sounds like you are shooting 20-75# critters, what we would call large varmints. I would suggest way more scope than a 3x9 as suggested in another post. 4x16 or 6.5x20 would both be good choices........4200 bushnell elite may be in your price range (not sure what optics cost where you live).......nikon monarch would be another good choice. Outfitted with a good varmint/target scope the gun and caliber will do exactly what you want it to......Good shooting.

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To: Talpur.....................................Apparently, the hunting circumstances are different over there!!!! But! You know your hunting situation better than anyone else. If you are confident that your 243 will do the job at those long ranges, then go to a higher powered variable instead of the 3x9!!!!........For the money, the Bushnell Elite 4200, would be my personal choice!!...................................Big Squeeze!  
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