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Recently purchased a Browning A-Bolt in .300 Win Mag now needing a scope.  I was thinking something along the line of Nikon 3-12 42mm with BDC or the 4-16 42 mm with BDC.  I chose this because I will be hunting long range and short range in the Colorado area for elk and mule deer.  Also do a lot of hunting in the piney woods area of East Texas where I call home.  Any comments or helpful suggustions would be appreciated.
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The Nikon reticule is a bit large for long-range. What is your budget?

There are many good BDC reticules on the market, I would not put Nikon's near the top of the list.

Give a price range and you will get many suggestions.  Mine, pre- price range is the Swaro  BDC reticule; it ain't cheap, but it is great.
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Price range for me will be $450.00 to $700.00
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i would look at a zeiss conquest with the z-600 reticle
i know its a little more than your budget but far as glass quality goes not a bad choice


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Here are a couple of fine scopes that fall in your category. Both can be mounted in medium rings and have crisp optics.
http://www.swfa.com/pc-3495-307-leupold-45-14x40-vx-iii-riflescope.aspx
http://www.swfa.com/pc-8120-360-burris-3-12x44-signature-select-rifle-scope.aspx
The Zeiss mentioned is also a very good scope.
The Nikon has very nice glass and is a great scope also. I wish they used smaller solid dots instead of the circles. I agree with Rancid. I would check it out and see what you think.


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Don't forget to add the new bushnell 4200 4-16 with side focus and rain guard, but without range finding plex.
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The circles on the BDC subtend 2" at one hundred yards. Here is the Nikon BDC manual http://nikonsro.com/fileuploads/pdfs/BDC_manual.pdf
I also found that our resident Nikon man thinks they work just fine and has some target pics here:http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=10783



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i like my nikon scopes but the only thing that i keep in the back of my mind is the poor image of there cs dept, now in 7yrs i havent had any issues knock on wood.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i like my nikon scopes but the only thing that i keep in the back of my mind is the poor image of there cs dept, now in 7yrs i havent had any issues knock on wood.
 
well THAT's a good thing....I guess they are not breaking apart!!   Smile 
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 Seems like 7 years and no problems " NIKONS "is the best recommendation I could ever imagine . Not even the so called leupold never any poblems hype gets thumped on that one .    Thunbs%20Up
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How about a couple of thirty to thirty-five year old Weavers like just keep on workin'??  And a twenty five year old Redfield or two....??  Shocked    

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they dont like getting wet though do they ed??
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Originally posted by mercenary1947 mercenary1947 wrote:

 Seems like 7 years and no problems " NIKONS "is the best recommendation I could ever imagine . Not even the so called leupold never any poblems hype gets thumped on that one .    Thunbs%20Up
 
 That's great, but I have 30-year old Leupolds that have never given me an ounce of trouble and have been hunted HARD.
 Get back to me in a quarter of a century or so, and I'll let you know what I really think of them...
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loopies at least could get wet though
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

they dont like getting wet though do they ed??
 
Well mine have certainly been wet! I have been out in rainstorms!! Snow.  Dust.  Are some of your scopes shrinking or something?? Whacko   
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I had a new Monarch 3-9x40 three years back that the windage "went out" after 3 shots on a 30-06..took 3 months to get Nikon to warranty it after they initially sent me a estimate for $169 to fix it ( on a 3 week old scope)..yes- the CS leaves alot to be desired !!!!!!!!!!
That being said, it is the only Monarch I've seen that has had an issue.
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

they dont like getting wet though do they ed??
 
Well mine have certainly been wet! I have been out in rainstorms!! Snow.  Dust.  Are some of your scopes shrinking or something?? Whacko   
they fogged up, my dad has a couple of old k4's and a v16
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ummm........and, unfortunately, it was YOURS!!!  Eek  YIKES!  I guess that's why everyone is so worried about warranties.....this new stuff is just FLYING APART!!!  Shocked  If I bought a scope that cost $400 and it broke, I would have a sh*t  fit.  ( better buy stuff from SWFA, then maybe Chris will just send you ANOTHER one---maybe....)  Big%20Smile    Better yet, let's have a thread about which scopes ARE NOT Flying Apart!!! 
 
 
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they are old weavers my new scopes are just fine
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

they dont like getting wet though do they ed??
 
Well mine have certainly been wet! I have been out in rainstorms!! Snow.  Dust.  Are some of your scopes shrinking or something?? Whacko   
they fogged up, my dad has a couple of old k4's and a v16
 
No fogging up to report.  Although I can say that my Weaver K-4-1 Micro Trac from the late seventies was LOTS Brighter than my 1981 4X Leupold ( which also never fogged up....it just went to bed early....)
 
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i think i will take my chances with the 4200 and monarch ucc myself
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yes, sounds like a good idea. I haven't seen a whole lot of people telling us that their 4200 scopes broke in half when they shot their rifle, have you? I am SOLD on the 4200 and I don't even own one.  I did have a 3200 and it was quite good---and water repellant!!Light%20It%20Up
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i havent looked at a 3200 besides inside a store, it looks like a nice scope, the 4200 is nice also.
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Has anyone got anything negative to say about the Nikon Buckmaster series?? Are they flying apart in little pieces???  I am curious about the 4.5X14 Buckmaster because it is so long that it would actually fit on my old Winchester and not bang into the rear sight. Shocked 
 
Another candidate would be the NEW Bushnell 4200 4X16 side focus number---it is very long in the tube.....   (signed) Pedro Eduardo Antonio Bustamante Y Pain In The Ass-OBandito
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i have owned more buckmaster scopes than any other with a total of 3 of them and havent had a problem one
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