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I am looking to get a scope for my Weatherby Vanguard Synthetic/stainless bolt action 7mm rem. mag.  I just want to know if it is better to get the best glass and coating you can afford and go for the 40mm scope,    or    get the nicest you can afford in a 50mm scope but sacrafice the glass and coatings?
 
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Snipe, you need to tell us what you are going to use it for (hunting, targets, both), what ranges you intend to shoot, all daytime, low light conditions, fixed or variable, etc. Need more information for the forum to help you make an informed decision on what scope you may need. Otherwise, you will probably just gets preferences... which are usually good, but sometimes not what YOU need or really want.
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i will mostly use the gun for hunting in low light conditions and day time obviously.  i will occasionally do a target shooting day but will need a scope meant for hunting.  I definatly would like a variable scope.

 
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Budget is ????
But yes- better glass on a 40mm is the way to go, plus it also affords a lower mounting that positions the rifle better....
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I agree... based upon your stated purposes, definitely go for better glass.

I suggest you go to SWFA's samplelist at www.samplelist.com.

Look at the Bushnell Elite 4200's, the Nikon Monarchs, and look at the Zeiss Conquests. There are some REALLY good prices and some really good glass. There are some varied price ranges to give you some ideas. The Zeiss' have a little larger objective, but great scopes.

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Its always wise to choose the best glass, in lieu of bells and whistles.

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get the best glass you can afford and never look back.
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We still are leaving out some of the most critical factors. Great glass is nice to have but when you are talking shooting at game animals at varying distances you need some type of system to make adjustment for the distances involved.  For a guy hunting under 100 yds in brush a 2.5x fixed scope with a duplex or #4 might be all he ever needs. However if you intend to shoot game out to 300 or 400 yds or further you need some way to accurately know where that bullet will strike.  Some scopes have balistic reticles to help however they only work at the highest power if it is a second focal plane scope. The Kahles Multizero scopes allow you to zero at 5 different distances and some are available at reduced prices slightly used on Samplelist.com SWFA's used inventory site.  Alternatively you can use a scope with target type knobs and dial in correction using known information of the trajectory of your cartridge or one solution is to put custom marked knobs on a target or tactical scope. http://www.kentonindustries.com/ but the simple way of doing business is Kahles scopes:
7124 Kahles 3-9x42 Helia CL Multizero 51713, Matte finish, plex reticle, 1" tube, side focus, fast focus eye piece, allows you to zero your scope at five different ranges, ring marks. $1,281.00 $599.95
8327 Kahles 3-10x50 Helia CL Multizero 51723, Matte finish, plex reticle, 1" tube, side focus, fast focus eye piece, Allows you to zero your scope at five different ranges, no ring marks, close to new condition. $1,315.00 $749.95
8235 Kahles 4-12x52 Helia CL Multizero 51733, Matte finish, plex reticle, 1" tube, side focus, fast focus eye piece, allows you to zero your scope at five different ranges, close to new condition. $1,392.00 $799.95
well you get the idea and SWFA is great to do business with if you order something in and inspect it and decide you want something different call them and send it back and get what you want or get a refund.  The samplelist scopes are your answer to great glass and a larger objective at a affordable price. Also 40 mm is great but I like a 50mm even better and I dont have any problem with cheekweld at 50mm, its not like were talking 72mmShocked.
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Objective diameter sets the amount of light entering the scope.

The quality of the optics system, it's glass, lens coatings, and interior light management, to name a few things, determines edge to edge resolution, sharpness, color contrast, and on and on. Lens coatings, in particular, are very important for light transmission.

The quality of the optics is far more important than the size of the objective lens.
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Originally posted by Gunshow75 Gunshow75 wrote:

Objective diameter sets the amount of light entering the scope.

The quality of the optics system, it's glass, lens coatings, and interior light management, to name a few things, determines edge to edge resolution, sharpness, color contrast, and on and on. Lens coatings, in particular, are very important for light transmission.

The quality of the optics is far more important than the size of the objective lens.
What he said.

Go with quality.
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