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I'm assembling a new 6.8 AR15 that is going to be a dedicated brush gun that stays in the Jeep and used in quick situations. Hogs, coyotes and the occasional deer with 90% of the shots being at 75-175 yards. The other 10% would be 175-250 yards. Low light performance is a must as well. I was considering the Vortex Viper HS 2.5-10x44. Great looking scope and I'm sure will do fine at range. But not exactly what I want for the quick aquisition scenarios. So I started re-thinking the optic and took a look at ACOGs. The illuminated reticle really got my attention. However, the fixed 4x I'm not so comfortable with. So my question is, should I go with ACOG and practice/choose my longer shots carefully? How far can the ACOG be used on a running pig if I do my part? Is there something else I should consider?
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Actually a 4x's a nice choice. I had an ACOG 4x and I really liked everything about it except for the eye relief which was 1.5", some of the other ACOG models have better eye relief. Check out some of the 1-4x scopes like a Super Sniper or an AccuPoint. If you like a red dot system, then Aimpoint.


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Ive heard good things about the SS 1x4, but have never touched one..

For the AR I prefer a real simple quick scope myself like the 1X4X24 Trijicon Accupoint with (BAC) Red Triangle. It sits upon a LaRue Mount which rides on a RRA 6.8 Carbine....This rig is very fast and not much can get away from me from 3' to 300 yards using the scope on 1X or 4X Only.. My eyes are not great and I really like the gret FOV with this scope. The only reason I like it better then the Acog is because its a Varible verses straight 4X with a BR . I hope this helps ya!                                                             

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Welcome to Optics Talk.

ACOG would serve you well, but I'd go with the 1-4x SS, for the scenario's you mentioned.


This optics covers more ground than a fixed power ACOG, at least too me. I can see the benefit of a full time lit reticle like the ACOG or Accupoint though. 

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I was looking for a new optic for my AR and narrowed it down to a 1-4 variable like the SS or Accupoint and the ACOG. I went with the ACOG mainly because I always wanted one and have no regrets at all. I did get the doc red dot on top for close shots though.
 


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Thanks for the direction guys.
How does that SS do in low light with the 24 objective?
Or if I go with the Viper 2.5-10x44 and a Bobro mount, Can I add a reflex type sight on top like FreeJersey did with his setup? That is an interesting combo.
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I have two of the SS 1-4x's.  The more I use them the more I like them. 

I had my AR out with me this weekend.  Spent Saturday and Sunday out scouting for deer.  I killed a bunch of pot guts (little ground squirrels) with it.  I killed several at 150 to 200 yards.  My AR is very accurate, and that scope works very well on it.  I love being able to dope in my shots, I keep a custom ballistic chart for it in my wallet so I can just dial in what I need. 

I think in low light they work quite well.  At 4x you will have 6mm of exit pupil which is quite a bit.  I use mine for early morning coyote hunting all the time and never have wanted more light.

I had an ACOG for a while and an IOR 4x for my ARs, but ultimately I felt limited with them because of the fixed power.  I sold the ACOG and bought a Trijicon 1-4x.  IMO that one is much better than an ACOG.  I then got a SS 1-4x and liked it better than the Accupoint, so I sold it and bought another SS 1-4x. 

For some the 4x might not be enough mag though.  So a 2.5-10x would be a pretty good choice as well.  2.5 is decent on the low end for real close shooting, much better than fixed 4x IMO. 
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Yes, you can add an Aimpoint Micro, (or another red dot) to a scope, if you'd like, with a Badger Ord. picatinny rail top. I'm doing this on my bolt gun and a 3-9x Super Sniper. 


But, don't feel you'd need to with a 1-4x SS though. 


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