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Have new Barrett 99 with Elite 3200 scope and would like to get a scope that will be the least likely to break or lose settings. I heard variables are not as tough as fixed power scopes- is that true of the Bushnell 6500 2.5x16x50?
I narrowed my choice down to a Super Sniper either in 10x42mil-dot HD, 16x42 (wish they made a HD model), the Bushnell 6500 or if it is still available for $1350 a Nightforce 5.5x22x56. What would experts say is the strongest scope? I consider toughness to be 95% important because what good is great glass, etc if the scope breaks at a critical time.
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There is a Super Sniper 10X42 SS HD Mil-dot on the sample list

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Curious how the 3200 has held up ??
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I have fired a friend's Steyr-Mannlicher .50 BMG. He wanted to see the lifespan of a very  inexpensive scope, a Barska 6-24 tactical. Thus far, after about 150 rounds, this scope has been flawless. The rifle itself experienced a trigger malfunction (a small screw in the assembly came loose at the 22-round mark) but the scope, which he said was about $200.00 has continued on without error! He is so satisfied, he does not plan to swap it out.
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Strongest will be a fixed power scope.  The 10xHD will be the strongest but there are some good reasons to select a Nightforce and better reasons to select a Premier
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/31/2009 at 13:43
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Originally posted by Terry Lamb Terry Lamb wrote:

I have fired a friend's Steyr-Mannlicher .50 BMG. He wanted to see the lifespan of a very  inexpensive scope, a Barska 6-24 tactical. Thus far, after about 150 rounds, this scope has been flawless. The rifle itself experienced a trigger malfunction (a small screw in the assembly came loose at the 22-round mark) but the scope, which he said was about $200.00 has continued on without error! He is so satisfied, he does not plan to swap it out.



At what ranges is he shooting?  Does he spin up/down the dials with frequency?  How is tracking?


Though I have never seen one in person, I hear many reports of "super scopes" made by companies traditionally recognized as making sub-par scopes.  These stories include BSA's with flawless glass and absolutely perfect tracking, Tascos with glass like an S&B that have never failed though mounted on a sever kicker, etc., etc.  I attribute these to 2 sources:
1.  Even a broke watch is right twice a day, maybe these lower-tier companies do accidentally make a great scope once in awhile, when the stars align just right, despite their best efforts.
2.  Urban legend:  "I knew a guy who knew a guy who shot a guy at 1,000,000 yards with a 4X NCStar at night in high wind and through a concrete wall with a .22LR."


Terry, not saying it ain't true, but my experience with shooters sporting Barska scopes is that they are for the masses who do not know how to use a scope well enough to see the flaws in its design and/or function.

There is no definitive correlation between price and scope quality or value (Leupold and Huskemaw prove that) but, in general, you get what you pay for.


To the original poster, get the 10X HD, nothing compares at anywhere near the price.  It is very rugged, and the warranty is top-notch, as is the Customer Service behind the scope.
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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:



this photo is controversial. some people say its an exact copy, others say its the real deal. gunny hatchcock used this exact setup a time or two. the argument is that nobody is sure if this is the  exact setup he used in vietnam or not.the man was a true genius a visionary before his time. messing with the 50 cal long before barret or anybody else even considered the 50bmg for long range sniping. no wonder he was one of the best ever.



back to the op, i find it interesting that the barfska lasted 150 shots. more than likely if a scope is going to break on a heavier recoiling rifle it will happen within 40-50 rounds. i can argue that the ss10xhd isnt the answer. good stuff!


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 i just got the barrett and Elite 3200 and have not yet fired it. I was thinking that I would sell it before it was used. Besides i am sure it will work for 20 rounds , I am more concerned how it will hold up after some use.
You all think that the non HD  10x42 is better by much than the Elite 3200?

I never heard of the Premier, I would imagine it is very expensive.
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they start at $2400 and go up from there.
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Don't 99s run around $3900? Seems like if you can accept that pain you can top it off with a NF or Premier.Big Smile
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:



this photo is controversial. some people say its an exact copy, others say its the real deal. gunny hatchcock used this exact setup a time or two. the argument is that nobody is sure if this is the  exact setup he used in vietnam or not.the man was a true genius a visionary before his time. messing with the 50 cal long before barret or anybody else even considered the 50bmg for long range sniping. no wonder he was one of the best ever.





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http://swfa.com/Premier-Reticles-Riflescopes-C1677.aspx
Premier has been working on scopes mostly replacing reticles on Leupolds etc for years and over time they have seen and responded to the need for a high quiality sniper scope. A couple of the guys here have them and like them a lot even better than the Nightforce and God Forbid better than the U.S. Optics which I find hard to believe but that is what I am hearing.   They have very nice features.   You will not be disappointed in a Premier or in the 10x HD.   The most disappointing feature of the 10x  3200 is the lack of a parallax adjustment on that scope.
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jonoMT - I paid $3500 new for the Barrett and scope with Barrett 1"/30mm rings and it is this very reason I do not have a lot of money left over for a scope and ammo to shoot. I do not have unlimited funds and was lucky enough to save up for the BArrett.
 Here in Arizona there is a lot of places where 1 or 2 miles is nothing except a nice challenge for some long range shooting. I am interested in ranges from 300 yards to 1500 yards, most shooting at 1000 than 300 or 1500 but I would like to have the power scope wise to go to 1500.
Is a 10 power with mildot enough power for those ranges? If so I will go with the 10x42HD. I know the NF in 5.5x22x56 will be better at those ranges but is it as durable? I can get the NF used for about $1100 anymore monet and I will have to go with the SS 10HD.
Is the 3200  10x40 Elites that Barrett puts on his Barretts any different than a standard 3200 Elite? Anyone interested in this Elite?
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A used NF 5.5-22 for $1100 is a great deal, take it (assuming you know the seller and you know the scope to be in good working condition.)

Do you have experience at long range shooting? 1,000 yards is a long shot, with many, many variable to consider.  Minor errors masked by 100-yard or 300-yard shots show quite true at 800+.

Though it might not be what you want to hear, I'd sell the Barrett (you'll probably make every penny back) and buy something that you can afford to shoot.  At $5+ a round for .50-cal ammo, I'd recommend a 300WM or 300RUM if you want the biggest pecker at the range.  A 300WM will reach out to 1,000 yards, and do it much cheaper than a .50 cal.

If you decide to keep the Barrett, I'd say save up for a scope that will do what you want.  The 10X HD is a good fit, but not ideal for 1500 yard shots.  (Though, if you aren't already  a great shooter, 1500 is going to be almost impossible.

If you are going to spend $3500 on a rifle, why top[ it with a $200 scope? Kinda like buying a Ferrari and putting on 13" budget tires.
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My friend has an Elite 3200 5-15x40 on a bolt 50 cal and has fired over 1000 shots with out any problems.He is saving up to buy a 6500 Elite now to replace the 3200.
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Rancid Coolaid  - Thanks for the input and everyone else also.  Winchester 300 UM at $32 is half what I paid for quality 50BMG but I like the bullet options you can get with the 50 that you can never get with any other round and it is not like I will be running through rounds like it was a 5.56. Seems like 300 RUM Trophy Bonded is about what 50BMG goes for.
I definitely do not plan on keeping a $200 scope on this rifle and most likely will get the SS 10x42HD and sell the 3200 Elite. I do not know the guy who is selling the NF 5.5x22x56 and he never answered my question about how much torque he used to mount the scope. I am no longer considering it because his reason for selling it does not make much sense either. I am afraid that while NF has a life time warranty it is only for their defects and not if someone overtightens the scope, etc.
I have to admit I am not totally comfortable buying a scope for a serious rifle that I never heard of before. And it is true it is made by Tasco but I do believe I will speak to Chris this weeek and buy it. It is a comfort knowing it has a Navy contract number- these are not given out everyday if they are not earned?
One last question/comment- the last time I bought an optional lifetime warranty the company went out of business. If SWFA closed would Tasco cover this scope? I know this is not really an important consideration but I am curious.
 
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