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Ok down the road I hope to be able to outfit this rifle with the much better glass that it deserves.  But times are tight I got limited means and a hunt in Nevada come October.  I want something descent under 400 bucks in the 4-12 or 4-14 range.

Ideally I would get a vx3 LR 4.5-14 set up with a drop turret and heavy duplex from teh custom shop but that just isnt in the cards right now.

With as flat a shooting round as this is I dont need the turret or crazy reticles just some good glass that wont fog up on me.

scopes I have been considering

buckmasters 4.5-14
monarch 3-12
redfield revolution 4-12
vx2 4-12x50 ( this is stretching the budget and I am not sure about big bells as I never have had one I also will probably disqualify it if it wont work in talley LW medium mounts)

Ok so I dont think anything above comes from red china as this is kinda important to me for what ever it is worth.

I am open to suggestion and this scope will eventually be passed down to a coyote rifle or something along those lines.

Again I just want a good clear bright picture dont need lots of bells and whistles


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Vortex 4-12x40 Viper Rifle Scope 
V-Plex Vortex 4-12x40 Viper Rifle Scope
Stock # - VPRM04P
  • Matte
  • V-Plex
  • 1"
  • Side Focus
$399.95 
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Dead-Hold BDC Vortex 4-12x40 Viper Rifle Scope
Stock # - VPRM04BDC
  • Matte
  • Dead-Hold BDC
  • 1"
  • Side Focus
$399.95 
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http://www.kentonindustries.com/
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Either one of the above scopes would be great for your purpose. Kenton even makes speed dials for the Viper that would do speed dials that would make it ultra quick in the field.


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vortex makes nice stuff, i love my 2x7 thats on my .375H&H
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where is the vortex made I have heard good things to but thought they were chineese
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Originally posted by Scott_at_Vortex Scott_at_Vortex wrote:

The glass for all of our Riflescopes comes from Japan except for Crossfires. Feel free to email or pm me if you have any other questionsBig Smile.


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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Scott_at_Vortex Scott_at_Vortex wrote:

The glass for all of our Riflescopes comes from Japan except for Crossfires. Feel free to email or pm me if you have any other questionsBig Smile.


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then what assembled in china?
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Not sure.  I'd PM Scott_at_Vortex or  Sam@Vortex
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 This is from an earlier thread:
 
As of now, I have designed and built a recoil simulator and have sent the patent info in for publication. I can simulate up to 260 lbs/ft of recoil, muzzle lift, reverse recoil, both for and aft recoil. Some of the scopes that I felt wouldn't impress have really impressed me. At 75 lbs/ft recoil with 2.2" of travel in 21 milliseconds. I have a Vortex Viper 3-9 that has taken over 2200 simulations and still hasn't failed. I have a 3-9 Diamondback that failed after 1500+ recoils and was fixed and returned in 9 days without question.

They will all fail, just a matter of when:

Sightron SII Big Sky 4-16X42... 1630 impacts........erector screw.. had loctite put on the screw and it's over 1200 impacts for the second time around.
Sightron SII Big Sky 3-9X42... 1260 impacts.........erector assy
SIII.............3.5-10X56...... 1571 impacts
Conquest................ 3-9X40..1056 impacts
Conquest ................4.5-14X44...996 impacts
 VXII............ 2-7X33.....66 impacts.erector assy failure...Fixed and went 1077 impacts
 VXIII............3.5-10X40..521 impacts
Nikon Monarch........... 3-12X42.. 336 impacts

 


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300 what are you saying get the vortex?

my main concern is a bright a crisp picture
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 Just wanted to give you some facts on the Viper scopes.

 I will tell you that I got rid of a 1.75-6x32 VX-III and replaced it with a 2-7x32 Viper. I'm not sorry I did.

 That being said,you say you want a bright crisp picture w/o the bells and whistles?  Then I'd go with a 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquest.

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Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

300 what are you saying get the vortex?

my main concern is a bright a crisp picture

as far as your list goes the viper is better optically than all of them, the monarch would be the only close competitor and their cs dept is spotty at best.
vortex is the real deal.
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4.5-14x 42 fullfield ii on sample list for $249.00
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Originally posted by powderburn powderburn wrote:

4.5-14x 42 fullfield ii on sample list for $249.00


what kind of warranty on the burris off samplelist?

I wont buy a nikon from there since it only has 90 days
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Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

Originally posted by powderburn powderburn wrote:

4.5-14x 42 fullfield ii on sample list for $249.00


what kind of warranty on the burris off samplelist?

I wont buy a nikon from there since it only has 90 days

the 90 day ones are probably refurbs.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

Originally posted by powderburn powderburn wrote:

4.5-14x 42 fullfield ii on sample list for $249.00


what kind of warranty on the burris off samplelist?

I wont buy a nikon from there since it only has 90 days

the 90 day ones are probably refurbs.

right which is basically all there is on samplelist for nikons which is why asked about the burris

Plus I doubt I would get that burris since it has the ballistic plex not a fan
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Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Scott_at_Vortex Scott_at_Vortex wrote:

The glass for all of our Riflescopes comes from Japan except for Crossfires. Feel free to email or pm me if you have any other questionsBig Smile.


Scott


then what assembled in china?
 
Unless something has recently changed, the Vipers I've seen said "Made in Philippines" on them, but the glass evidently comes from Japan.
 
I believe the Crossfire is made in China, as is their lower end binoculars.  With the exception of some Viper scopes made in the Philippines, their high end products (mostly items with "Razor" and "Viper" in the series name) are all made in Japan.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by nitis nitis wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Scott_at_Vortex Scott_at_Vortex wrote:

The glass for all of our Riflescopes comes from Japan except for Crossfires. Feel free to email or pm me if you have any other questionsBig Smile.


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then what assembled in china?
 
Unless something has recently changed, the Vipers I've seen said "Made in Philippines" on them, but the glass evidently comes from Japan.
 
I believe the Crossfire is made in China, as is their lower end binoculars.  With the exception of some Viper scopes made in the Philippines, their high end products (mostly items with "Razor" and "Viper" in the series name) are all made in Japan.


Thank you that answers my question I guess I may have to give one a chance
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the duplex reticle how heavy or light is it?  I dont like really fine crosshairs ideally I want a heavy duplex or german #4 like leupold uses

I get along ok with the nikoplex in my 4-12 ucc
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 Just wanted to give you some facts on the Viper scopes.

 I will tell you that I got rid of a 1.75-6x32 VX-III and replaced it with a 2-7x32 Viper. I'm not sorry I did.

 That being said,you say you want a bright crisp picture w/o the bells and whistles?  Then I'd go with a 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquest.
+1 Hard to argue with the Conquest at the price point they are at now. I still think this is one of the best values at this price.
 
I need to find some Vortex optics to look through. The only one I've seen is my spotter, and it's a low end model.
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