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    Posted: March/17/2008 at 17:52

I just purchased a Savage 110FP in .300 Winchester Magnum to be used for long range target shooting along with occasional long range hunting.  I've decided on the Super Sniper 10X 42mm scope by SWFA.  I've done some research on scope mounts and I've decided that a solid yet descently cheap company is Warne.  I'm not quite sure what type of mounting system I should get though and I'm not sure what size I need to get.  I'd either like to get a Warne 2 piece weaver-style base with Warne Quick Release 30 mm rings which total around $75 for the set.  The second option is the Warne tactical Picatinny Rail with 20 MOA taper and Warne tactical 30mm milspec rings which totals $160 for the set. 

Obviously the cheaper QR rings and weaver style base would be more cost efficient and it would be nice to be able to quickly take the scope off when cleaning the rifle but I'm not sure how solid the QR rings would be.  I also don't know if the weaver-style bases will allow with enough play with the Super Sniper scope to get the scope at the perfect position for my eye relief.  The 110FP is obviously a long action and this will separate the rings pretty far and I'm just not sure how much play I'll have with the weaver-style.  The Picatinny rail would allow me to bring the rings closer together and allow for possibly a more custom fit to my shooting position.  In addition, the 20MOA taper base might be prefered for long range shooting out to 1000 yards depending on how much the drop is on a .300 Winchester Magnum at 1000 yards.  Any recommendations based on experience or knowledge?
 
The other question has to do with the ring size.  I know that the SS scope has a 50mm outside diameter, and with Butler creek flip-up lens covers, I'm guessing I'll need a total of 30 mm of space between the barrel and the middle of the scope.  The main tube of the scope is 30mm which means the midpoint is 15 mm.  Therefore the base plus the ring height would have to be atleast 15 mm.  The medium QR rings are 9.6 mm but I'm not quite sure how high the weaver bases are.  Does anybody know how high the average weaver-style bases are?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/18/2008 at 03:23
 
 
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How bout a Warne rail and Burris low rings?
I prefer split horizonal rings to vertical split. MUCHO easier to mount.
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Well I'd really like to stick to just Warne.  Warne makes some tactical rings, and I'm happy with those if I end up getting the tactical Picatinny rail....the real question is which bases will fit.  If the weaver-style bases with the QR rings will allow me enough play with the Super Sniper scope to fit my shooting position, then I'd rather opt for them.  But I fear that the long action of the 110FP will spread the weaver style bases so far apart that I won't have any play with moving the scope up or back to fit to my position.  Does that question make sense? 
 
I'm also wondering if anybody has used the Warne QR rings on the weaver-style bases to note on whether they are strong enough to hold solid.
 
And finally, does anybody know the ballistic drop of a .300 Winchester Magnum at 1000 yds.  The Super Sniper 10x42 has 120 MOA of elevation adjustment, so I might not even need a taper at all....but depending on the ballistics, I may need to get the Picatinny rail just because of the 20 MOA taper.
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If you are set on Wanre, I would get these. 
http://www.swfa.com/pc-11403-1749-warne-maxima-permanent-attach-30mm-rings.aspx

I would also get the picatinny base, having all the mounting options may be very beneficial to you.

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I think you'd be ok but why risk it, get the 20 moa rail just in case, it's better to have it and not need it than the other way around.
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Take it from a guy that used to do the technical support for Warne and I also have no less than 5 Savage rifles set up in this manner: Savage long action accu-trigger Warne part number M667-MOA tactical rail and If you feel you need tactical rings, 614M. If you can do with QD rings, 213LM will work just right.
 
My fire bug friend said to use horizontal split rings because they're easier to use, I disagree because I've mounted thousands of rings and I feel vertical split is by far the easier. Very little, if any scope roll.
 
Now you have 2 very good opinions, you make the call.
 
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