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Thanks to all the replies to my post below.  I ended up going with a Burris Fullfield II, it was a combination between what was readily available on short notice within my price range, and research to go along with all your suggestions. 

As this will be the first time hunting with a large caliber magnum, the one thing that has stuck out in all my research is the critical role that proper mounting plays.  I called the manufacturer of popular line and the head tech there mentioned the importance of getting the scope as close to sighted in as possible by adjusting the rings for vertical/horizontal, but I'm a bit confused as to how that's done, especially in the horizontal.  He claimed even basic boresighting was often inadequate. 
 
I'm going to double check with my gunsmith before I take it in to clarify their mounting procuedures and make sure they are lapping the scope rings, boresighting it, etc.
 
Anything else I should make sure they do when mounting it?  I've never had to take much care with the .243  However, being as this is a magnum I want to get it mounted right to prevent any premature failing of the scope.
 
 
 
 
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Only certain scope rings allow you to adjust them horizontally.  Leupold has some and with Burris Z rings you can put in offset spacers to do that.  But most of the other rings will just be based off the mounting holes off the top of your action.  Not much you can do there. 

Good idea on checking with how your gun smith mounts the scope.  I watch the gun smith I use mount a couple scopes on new rifles once and am very glad I do my own instead of him do them.  He just pulled the rings out of a package stuck them on the gun and popped the scope right in without checking anything or even bothering to torque anything. 

If you to do it your self there are a couple companies that make scope mounting kits to help you know everything is square and you know it is done correctly.  One is wheeler engineering and the other is Kokopelli products.  I have a couple of the kokopelli kits and they are nice and make things very easy to do.  http://www.kokopelliproducts.com/acckit.htm
http://www.battenfeldtechnologies.com/wheeler-engineering/catalog.asp?family=Professional-Scope-Mounting-Kit

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If you get good mounts, you can probably do it yourself.  You just need to:

1.  Be careful to keep the rings together as assembled at the factory (i.e., don't switch pieces around).
2.  Turn the scope adjustments to both extremes, and then put them at the midpoint position and leave them there.
2.  Use a piece of wooden dowel to do any serious turning or positioning (and not the scope).
3.  Lay the scope in the lower rings to be sure it fits properly.  
4.  Put the upper rings on, but don't completely tighten them. 
5.  Use a good level  to be sure the rifle is parallel (i.e., not tilted in the rest) and a plumb line (or straight edge on the wall) to be sure the crosshairs are vertical.  
5.  Secure the screws firmly (but NOT to the point where you hear a crunch).
6.  Step back, and admire your handywork.
 
It's worked for me on every rifle I have owned (including a .338 Win Mag, since you are concerned about recoil).
 
I personally like Leupold's quick release rings and bases, but everyone on this web site has their own favorites that work for them. 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Only certain scope rings allow you to adjust them horizontally.  Leupold has some and with Burris Z rings you can put in offset spacers to do that. 

 Just to clarify and expand upon this point regarding Burris rings.
Only the Signature Series of Burris brand rings use the eccentric plastic inserts for windage and elevation adjustability of the tube within the rings themselves.
 The Burris Zee Series are the Weaver style (as opposed to the Leupold/Redfield rotary dovetail and Dual Dovetail styles and the grooved reciever .22 styles as well) rings.
 
Now that we understand that, all of those styles are also available with or without the plastic insert system, determined by the Signature designation on those that do.
 
 Clear it up any?
 
 
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Welcome to Optics Talk.
 
Check out our dedicated Rings and Bases Forum for good pointers and advise as well.
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I really like the signature rings.  In fact that is what is sitting on my 300 Win Mag right now.  The inserts are great for aligning everything, but can be somewhat time consuming to get it exact.  My only complaint is that they do not make the 30mm Sig Zee rings in low.

I think the FFII is a good choice as well.  I had it on my 300 for a while, but swapped it out when I put the Black Diamond on.  Before the 300, the FFII sat in my 270.  Had a horse roll on it, and the scope was fine.  Never even moved the zero.  Never had a problem with that scope since I have had it.
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Originally posted by helo18 helo18 wrote:

I really like the signature rings.  In fact that is what is sitting on my 300 Win Mag right now.  The inserts are great for aligning everything, but can be somewhat time consuming to get it exact.  My only complaint is that they do not make the 30mm Sig Zee rings in low.

I think the FFII is a good choice as well.  I had it on my 300 for a while, but swapped it out when I put the Black Diamond on.  Before the 300, the FFII sat in my 270.  Had a horse roll on it, and the scope was fine.  Never even moved the zero.  Never had a problem with that scope since I have had it.
 
I'm also a big fan of the Signature Rings. They are often the best solution for dealing with an odd old rifle or one that has the mounting holes drilled a bit off center, etc. They hold the tube tight and never ring-mark it, either.
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