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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote drum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/06/2007 at 14:56
John, thanks for the pics, good looking set up. Still not sure what I'm going to do. Just called SWFA and they are out of the Nikon I was looking at.
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best of luck to you - i am very happy w/ my setup and glad i got one before the sale was done.

 

weavers are not pretty, like you said, but they grip fine and always have for me.

 

let us konw what you decide on your setup, drum.

 

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Parallax shouldn't be an issue providing your eye is lined up with the center of the scope.

 

You guys can argue that the scope isn't an issue for you but I know better. 

 

Here is a H&R rifle desiged for shooting with iron sights, just like the Marlin 336...

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/buffalo.aspx

 

Here is another H&R rifle designed for shooting with a scope...

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/hunter.aspx

 

Notice the difference in the butt stocks and how the 45LC's comb is much lower.  There is a reason for this and all of you know it but you still think you "need" a scope on your 336 to see your target even well under 100 yards.

 

Scopes are cool and I want the lastest and greatest gadgets as much as the next guy but I know better than to ruin the handling of my favorite lever rifles by permanently mounting scopes on them.  I've tried it many times and came to my senses and now I know better. 

 

Good luck to all the scope-mounted 336's. 

 

Just wait to see how long it takes before Marlin starts offering their new 308 Express rifle without iron sights and with a higher comb butt stock! 

 

If you haven't tried the WildWest trigger, don't take my word for it because we obviously disagree about the scope, but do check some reviews on it and decide for yourself.

 

Happy shooting,

 

Smitty

 

 

 

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote drum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/06/2007 at 21:04
Smitty, Thanks for the input I'm still taking it all in. Not sure what I'm going to do. I move pretty slowly with my hunting and fishing toys because I enjoy them so much and try to make the best informed decisioin possible. So all info is appreciated.
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Nice set ups.  The only problem I have and this is just in the specs, because I have never looked through the scope, is the poor FOV of the Monarch 1.5x4.5 20mm at max. magnification and if I were going for this size scope, in a variable, would go with a different brand.  With this rifle, you will want a good FOV, especially at 4x power.

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this is a nice setup, imo i would never ever scope a lever rifle, i'm old school that way, i am a firm believer in brush guns dont need and really shouldnt ever have a scope on them, it defeats the purpose of the whole brush gun premise, i like a 30-30 thats either got factory sights or an aftermarket peep like a williams sight, im not knocking you at all man its your gun, and i am happy if your happy, just thought i would chime in.
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"You guys can argue that the scope isn't an issue for you but I know better."

 

smitty, how in the hell can you INSIST that i have an issue w/ my most effective weapon?

 

the only issue i have w/ the 30/30 setup of mine, is that it's not a good long range gun.

it is dead on, year after year. and it's killed a pile of deer by myself, my father, and my pals.

none of which had any of your issues. it comes w/ holes to mount a scope base. guess marlin

wasn't aware of the serious issues in mounting a scope on a 336. those IDIOTS. that was sarcasm.

 

the only reason i 'need' a scope is i am up in a tree hunting in the lowlight of SE swamps. first light shots. last light shots.

NOT driving w/ a brush gun.

 

fin.

 

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Originally posted by jonbravado jonbravado wrote:

"You guys can argue that the scope isn't an issue for you but I know better."

 

smitty, how in the hell can you INSIST that i have an issue w/ my most effective weapon?

 

the only issue i have w/ the 30/30 setup of mine, is that it's not a good long range gun.

it is dead on, year after year. and it's killed a pile of deer by myself, my father, and my pals.

none of which had any of your issues. it comes w/ holes to mount a scope base. guess marlin

wasn't aware of the serious issues in mounting a scope on a 336. those IDIOTS. that was sarcasm.

 

the only reason i 'need' a scope is i am up in a tree hunting in the lowlight of SE swamps. first light shots. last light shots.

NOT driving w/ a brush gun.

 

fin.

 

J

 

 

 

 

I agree.

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Brush gun ? that's old school talk. The 30/30 is now capable of 300yd shots thanks to the new Ammo out. I've got 5 deer rifles from 243 to 300 Wmag. my favorite is the 336 marlin in 30-30.

what ever scope you use, don't forget to buy and use the new Hornady Lever Revolution ammo. It works wonders on whitetails, and if you happen to want to take a 250 yd. shot it's no problem. The 30-30 has killed more deer than any other caliber, don't let these guy's fool you.



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300 yrds w/ a 30/30 - that's crazy talk

 

is it really that good? i must try it out.

 

i love my 336.

 

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RMS I use a turkey plex Bushnell on my 44 - love it; at close range almost like a peep - just put the circle over what I want to hit.
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Even with the excellent new Hornady LeverEvolution ammo, 300 yards is a heck of a long shot for a 30-30.  I spent some time looking at the ballistics tables and shot a couple of boxes of the stuff through my Marlin before hunting season last year.  I would have been comfortable with shots just over 200 yards, but not much farther.  That is 50-60 yards further than I would shoot with flat-point 30-30 ammo.  300 yard shots would have been fun to try on targets, but I would not have felt ethical taking shots on live game at that range with that gun.

 

I ended up killing  a doe with a LeverEvolution bullet on my father-in-laws property just after Christmas.  Range to the doe was about 110 yards.  My in-law's place has range markers on the shooting lanes for most of the deer stands.  That takes most of the guesswork out of range estimation. 

 

At the time, my Marlin was scoped with a 4x Tasco.  I recently stepped up to a Nikon Monarch 2-7.  That might make me a little more comfortable with slightly longer shots next year.

 

 



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I have a 4200 Elite 1.5-6 on my Marlin 1895SS in 45/70 and it is absolutely perfect....The only drawback to a 336 is it is a bit long,but not terribly so..

 

 

Oh yeah, Hornady's Lever Evolution ammo is really good stuff. In my Winchester, H & R , and Marlin, it shoots extremely well and is very consistent.



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good to hear!

 

i will pick up a box or two and try it out. what grn bullet's are you all shooting?

 

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The LeverEvolutions are 160 grain for the 30-30. 
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got it, thanks. 

 

What about the reduced "managed" recoil bullets?

 

i have heard good accuracy reports through the grapevine at 100 yrds.

 

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Not the hardest hitting stuff ( 125 gr.s )...Pretty much limited to 100 YD.s
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